It's quite possible he'll be our SECOND highest paid player, which makes me cringe.
Point Guard Contingency Plan - Summer of 2017
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It's quite possible he'll be our SECOND highest paid player, which makes me cringe.
The Blazers have already made it known (somewhat) that they'd rather keep McCollum in the rumoured Lillard trade before the deadline.
McCollum started at point guard for about 4-5 games while Lillard was out injured this year and he was a MONSTER.
David Stern
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Wouldn't a max for Hill be higher than a max for Hayward if we went that route? That's even more terrifying to think about.
Well I guess a better way to word it, I dont see anyone else I'd rather be our highest paid player outside of Gobert/Hayawrd than Hill. If we had some stud coming up from the rookie rankings who I was 100% trusted in "Yeah, that dude can be our 3rd best player", then I'd feel better about not signing Hill.
Game6Conley
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If they get Mills you also get a defensive PG in the draft such as De'Anthony Melton(sort of puts up AK-47 type statlines as a combo guard..) or Shake Milton (who's built like Exum)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8cbSDkMNUo
That's a good point, but by trading away Favors, he can't Carmelo us neither. Bradley is a better fit for the Jazz core when you assume that Hayward becomes a 30%+ usage facilitator worthy of his max. By adding a fringe starter PF with range, you make the roster fit cleaner by improving the spacing. I think this could work better long term.
Game6Conley
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Do you think a rookie is going to be sufficient next to Exum next year for us to compete for the 3rd-5th spot in the West? I don't. If you have a look at MEM, they got what looked like a very good rookie prospect in Wade Baldwin, but he's no where to be seen. He didn't make an impact at all this year for that team. I don't even think he's played recently.
We can pick a rookie PG in the draft, sure, but I still think we need to sign another more experienced PG who will carry the team in the meantime.
Hayward ain't going to be waiting around for another rookie to develop to compete. The window is closing.
Do you think a rookie is going to be sufficient next to Exum next year for us to compete for the 3rd-5th spot in the West? I don't. If you have a look at MEM, they got what looked like a very good rookie prospect in Wade Baldwin, but he's no where to be seen. He didn't make an impact at all this year for that team. I don't even think he's played recently.
We can pick a rookie PG in the draft, sure, but I still think we need to sign another more experienced PG who will carry the team in the meantime.
Hayward ain't going to be waiting around for another rookie to develop to compete. The window is closing.
Game6Conley
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ic_ozjMuR0
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Game6Conley
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I would've started Exum this season.. so.. I guess if that rookie is Lonzo Ball than there's no doubt the answer is yes.. 3-5 seed is very tough tho This team now with Hill isn't the 3rd seed or competing for it tbh so that doesn't seem like a reasonable standard..
The team can make the playoffs and have a punchers chance.. .500 ball, especially if they get the right rookie..
Andrew Jones is my pick if you're looking for a Hill skillset replacement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KiGVww_AHM
Chad Ford has him right in the range of both Jazz picks in his latest mock IIRC, with a note saying some NBA scouts swear by him or something like that..
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green
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Jazz have absolutely screwed themselves over with their cheapness. Remember when I said that the main factor in Utah wanting Hill over Teague was because Hill was cheaper? lol. Guess that blew up in their faces. Not only does it sound like Hill will get 30 million a year when you could have had Teague for 20-ish per, but Teague has played the whole season, while Hill has missed significant time. You'd probably be around 40 wins right now with Teague. lol.
Utah could have brought Teague over, extended him with Gobert and had him for 20 million per year. Now, it looks like it'd be crazy to re-sign Hill at 30+, but if Hill walks, I'd go to Boston if I was Hayward...
Ha ha. But, at least we got those playoff runs with Al Jefferson and Corbin, right?
If I was Utah, I'd be busting my butt off to get a PG before the draft. I'd throw everything thing at PDX. Give PDX Favors, Hood, Exum, and a bunch of picks. If that doesn't work, I'd put everyone and anyone not named Gobert or Hayward on the market to get a third STAR, not "nice" player, but a STAR so Hayward doesn't walk.
Good old Utah. lol.
Utah could have brought Teague over, extended him with Gobert and had him for 20 million per year. Now, it looks like it'd be crazy to re-sign Hill at 30+, but if Hill walks, I'd go to Boston if I was Hayward...
Ha ha. But, at least we got those playoff runs with Al Jefferson and Corbin, right?
If I was Utah, I'd be busting my butt off to get a PG before the draft. I'd throw everything thing at PDX. Give PDX Favors, Hood, Exum, and a bunch of picks. If that doesn't work, I'd put everyone and anyone not named Gobert or Hayward on the market to get a third STAR, not "nice" player, but a STAR so Hayward doesn't walk.
Good old Utah. lol.
Game6Conley
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Jalen Brunson is like a wise old sophomore and just has nerves of steel, he's diminutive, Trey Burke sized but look at this. He's got an NBA pedigree his father Rick Brunson played forlike 8 years. also was a key contributor as a Fr. to Nova's national championship run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmR-I1W8k8Q
He's not gonna be overwhelmed by the moment this kid is SUPER NBA ready in certain aspects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmR-I1W8k8Q
He's not gonna be overwhelmed by the moment this kid is SUPER NBA ready in certain aspects.
Yeah but that's my point though, we're not getting Fultz or Lonzo Ball, so we're stuck with picking a PG in the mid 20's and they're not going to be able to start or make an impact straight away.
MIL got lucky with Brogdon, but even then it's not like he will start for a team in the WEST trying to reach 3rd-5th seed is he?
I don't know about that. I don't know if Teague's situation is as clear cut as you're making it out to be. If he could have been extended that cheaply why isn't IND extending him?
I think whether we got Teague or Hill it's just going to be the same situation, irregardlessly.
Game6Conley
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Pretty sure Teague just wants to find a spot to compete that wants him too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqLv6qE768Q
Had a 17ast game this year and a 15..
Well if you said it, it must be true. Or complete BS. One or the other.
I don't think he has the athleticism or size. Nice drive on video, but not at all explosive.
green
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I disagree. Teague stated over and over again he wanted to do a long term deal when he was traded. Ind hasn't done it yet, because of contract issues with George (wanting to extend/re-sign him).
We could have extended Teague the day after we aquired him. But, it now looks like both Ind and Utah will have to fork out big bucks to keep their PG's.
At least you can understand Ind...they were trying to keep George. Utah? Just cheap. Trying to outsmart the rest of the league.
You know when a player says he wants a long-term deal that means he wants a long-term deal at the price he wants, not just any deal, right?