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What pace will Utah play at this season?

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Handlogten's Heros said:
I think people that don't play don't quite realize that it is much harder to fight through screens, stay in a defensive position, and close out to shooters and try to cover is much harder than just running up and down the court.

These are the body blows that take its toll over the game... combined with having to work to score on the other end and it is clear to me that making opposing teams defend longer is the right strategy. Not sexy, but effective. It is also much closer to how the playoffs are played.
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When Snyder first came to Utah, his plan was the PPP. Play with Pace, play with Purpose and play with the Pass.(thanks to stitches for reminding me) He just didn't have the personnel to make it work. Now he has Rubio and a starting lineup with only 2 guys who can stretch the floor, and some people believe he will intentionally try and grind things out in the half-court? Not buying it, but we'll see.

I think we'll see teams sticking to Hood and Ingles like glue while daring Rubio and Favors to shoot long jumpers. Hard to wear guys out on close outs when only 2/5 of your staring lineup needs to be closed out on. Maybe Rubio and Favors both have career years shooting, but if we're going to purposely try to grind things out with a half-court offense, they pretty much have to.
 
fishonjazz said:
Good post but I do think that buckets are often easier (and free throws more easily earned) to convert on in transition before the defense is set so I think running more could be a good thing too.
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Yeah I think we need to be opportunistic, but pull out when it aint there.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
When Snyder first came to Utah, his plan was the PPP. Play with Pace, play with Purpose and play with the Pass.(thanks to stitches for reminding me) He just didn't have the personnel to make it work. Now he has Rubio and a starting lineup with only 2 guys who can stretch the floor, and some people believe he will intentionally try and grind things out in the half-court? Not buying it, but we'll see.

I think we'll see teams sticking to Hood and Ingles like glue while daring Rubio and Favors to shoot long jumpers. Hard to wear guys out on close outs when only 2/5 of your staring lineup needs to be closed out on. Maybe Rubio and Favors both have career years shooting, but if we're going to purposely try to grind things out with a half-court offense, they pretty much have to.
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I think you can have pace and purpose without shooting fast... I think we need to push a little more, but maybe get into our actions a little earlier.

I also think guys change... he may have wanted to play fast and now thinks this is a better route.

It isn't so much closing out to shooters, but just have multiple actions, lots of screens to work around, and making guys think and move... is just as or more effective in wearing teams out.

I just think if Rubio is running by himself he isn't a great finisher... Hood doesn't play real fast... Joe's nickname is Slo Mo... Favs doesn't run like a deer. IDK we will see, but I don't expect huge changes.
 
There are some teams taht have a slow pace but score a lot of fastbreak points, but those are teams with super athletic wings. Milwaukee is the biggest example of that.

The Wolves were kind of like that last year too. Probably due to their athletic wings and having Rubio.

I just dont know if the Jazz have the wings to be a good fastbreak team.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
When Snyder first came to Utah, his plan was the PPP. Play with Pace, play with Purpose and play with the Pass.(thanks to stitches for reminding me) He just didn't have the personnel to make it work. Now he has Rubio and a starting lineup with only 2 guys who can stretch the floor, and some people believe he will intentionally try and grind things out in the half-court? Not buying it, but we'll see.

I think we'll see teams sticking to Hood and Ingles like glue while daring Rubio and Favors to shoot long jumpers. Hard to wear guys out on close outs when only 2/5 of your staring lineup needs to be closed out on. Maybe Rubio and Favors both have career years shooting, but if we're going to purposely try to grind things out with a half-court offense, they pretty much have to.
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Fair enough but you are forgetting that "sticking to Hood and Ingles like glue" leaves huge openings for pnr
terror. Defenses are much more likely to play a collapse, paint stopping style against Utah's no floor spacing buildup. Players can sag off and get back when the spacing is as bad as it will be. We'll have to see if QS can counter that with some good high-low, small ball pnr, and Favors being able to dominate. I'm also guessing we see a bit more of the elevator play.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
There are some teams taht have a slow pace but score a lot of fastbreak points, but those are teams with super athletic wings. Milwaukee is the biggest example of that.

The Wolves were kind of like that last year too. Probably due to their athletic wings and having Rubio.

I just dont know if the Jazz have the wings to be a good fastbreak team.
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Yeah I see it being more guys running to the corner than finishing at the basket. May space the floor for some Gobert trailer rim runs.
 
NAOS said:
nateboz's head just exploded.

Do U reAlLy meAn dAt pACe is mEAsurEd bY PoSSeSions uSeD? wHeRE dID U finD tHIs iNFO? lINk?
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Go ahead and re-read what I posted. Do me a favor and block me as I've had you blocked for over a year I really don't care for your posts.

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I think we'll be somewhere around middle of the pack to bottom ten. No way in hades does Utah intentionally grind things out in the half-court.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
SLC dunk has their projected starting lineup with Joe Johnson starting at the 4.

Utah definitely won't be keeping Favors past this year if he's healthy and not starting. I think you have to start him until you can either find a trade or decide to try and re-sign him.
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No way is Joe Johnson starting. Quin will manage his minutes so that he will be strong come playoff time. I don't think SLC Dunk knows any more than most of us on Jazzfanz, so I wouldn't refer to them as a good source.
 
I think I voted bottom 5 here.

Last night pace was 95.
Drtg 101.1
Ortg 111.6

Last year
91.6 Pace
105.3 Drtg
109.6 Ortg

This is per Basketball reference.

95 Pace would put us at #22 last year.
 
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