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Progress! i would like to congratulate liberals the victory they gained with a activist judge

Red said:
"Bernard A. Friedman was appointed by President Ronald Reagan
as a United States District Judge for the Eastern District of Michigan in June 1988. Judge Friedman was elevated to Chief Judge on June 16, 2004, and served in that capacity until January 1, 2009, at which time he became a senior judge."

https://www.mied.uscourts.gov/index.cfm?pageFunction=chambers&judgeid=9

https://ballotpedia.org/Bernard_Friedman
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shows you how impartial old presidents where in apointing judges! obummer the rat started with appoint activist judges and justices. which opened the floodgates for judges appointed before then to get embolden en become activist judges
 
One Brow said:
Do you also oppose male genital mutilation? Do you think both should be outlawed?

Is the judge wrong? Is there an interstate commerce implication to genital mutilation?
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well let's compare those 2. i removes a piece of skin. the other mutilates a organ called the **** dont know if i can say it so i uncensored it!
now people do studies. some studies are hogwash some studies are true. show me 1 study that shows medical/live benefits with female genital mutiliation! there is NOT A SINGLE STUDY showing any benefit. or nuetral!
there are enough studies showing that male circumscicsion has benefits. now you might disagree with those studies. there are also studies who say it is wrong! but there are studies showing it on both sides! so it can be argued there are benefits. but there are no negative effects! other then astetically you migh like one more than the other!

benifits according to studies are reduced risk of STD.
reduced risk of penile cancer and cervical cancer in female sex parners
prevention of balanitis and balnohosthits
decreased risk of urinary tract inventions!

the only disadvantage is atstetically you might prefer a uncut penis. and reduced sensitivy in the male penis. and that i see as an advantage. instead of lasting 1 mintue. i can last 2 minutes! :p, k joking aside. i have never known sexual pleasure with an uncircumcised penis since mine was cut at 8 days old. so i cant say if the reduced sensitiviy is a disadvantage or not. what i can say is i really enjoy it, and feel enough. then there are men who circumcised well into their adult hood and if we are to believe them. they say reduced sensitivty is negligble!


only a liar, a uninfomred or evil person would compare female genitalmutilation to male circumcision! 2 totally different things
 
RJF said:
Please tell me you’re not comparing male circumcision with female genital mutilation.
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yes he actually is. at first i thought he was just an evil a global/international socialist!

now i see he is what those evil (inter)national socialist and commies call a "USEFUL IDIOT"!
 
DutchJazzer said:
well let's compare those 2. i removes a piece of skin. the other mutilates a organ called the **** dont know if i can say it so i uncensored it!
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FGM Type IV removes a small piece of skin, jut like most MGM.

DutchJazzer said:
there are enough studies showing that male circumscicsion has benefits.
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I have heard this, but the only study I have seen is one where men reported taking a slightly longer time to orgasm after an adult circumcision. Feel free to link to others.

DutchJazzer said:
but there are no negative effects!
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Every year, hundreds of boys are permanently mutilated for a procedure with no medical benefits.

DutchJazzer said:
only a liar, a uninfomred or evil person would compare female genitalmutilation to male circumcision! 2 totally different things
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Only a culturally blind or uninformed person sees a difference.
 
RJF said:
Please tell me you’re not comparing male circumcision with female genital mutilation.
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Because there is some great difference between male circumcision and Type IV FGM that you will now explain?
 
One Brow said:
Every year, hundreds of boys are permanently mutilated for a procedure with no medical benefits.
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lol there are tons of studies of ACTUAL SCIENTIST and DOCTORS. whos ays their are medical benefits. i know studies are made by humans and humans are flawed so there can be nonsensical, or irrelevant studies.

so we can argue the merits of those studies. until we are blue in the face BUT THEIR ARE A GAZILLION WESTERN STUDIES WHO claim medical benefits!

i have yet to see 1! i repeat ! western study showing any benefit for woman genital mutilation!

so you cant compare these 2
 
Red said:
"Bernard A. Friedman was appointed by President Ronald Reagan
as a United States District Judge for the Eastern District of Michigan in June 1988. Judge Friedman was elevated to Chief Judge on June 16, 2004, and served in that capacity until January 1, 2009, at which time he became a senior judge."

https://www.mied.uscourts.gov/index.cfm?pageFunction=chambers&judgeid=9

https://ballotpedia.org/Bernard_Friedman
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Typical gotcha post by Red.

You self absorbed, poor pity me and everyone for everything liberals are completely unrelatable to anyone with a sliver of a conscience. Just so you know.

Reagan appointed him gotcha gotcha gotcha. Give me a ****ing break with that disgusting response. I think mistreatment of women matters much more than your stupid political battle.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Typical gotcha post by Red.

You self absorbed, poor pity me and everyone for everything liberals are completely unrelatable to anyone with a sliver of a conscience. Just so you know.

Reagan appointed him gotcha gotcha gotcha. Give me a ****ing break with that disgusting response. I think mistreatment of women matters much more than your stupid political battle.
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Hey!
layoff Red.

He was addressing the political taunt in the OP. Red did not introduce the buffoonery, so chill out.





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DutchJazzer said:
welcome to progressive america
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idestroyedthetoilet said:
Reagan appointed him gotcha gotcha gotcha.
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I'm not sure why or how Reagan's name appeared in bold type from the quote I pasted from the first of the two links I posted. It does not appear in bold type in the actual link, and I did not make it bold type myself. It was not really a "gotcha" effort on my part at all. Based on what Dutch said above, "welcome to progressive America", I just decided to see what info I could find on the judge in question. I asked myself "is this an obvious "progressive" judge?"

But, yes, I did think it unlikely that he was a "progressive" judge if he had been appointed by Reagan. I thought it informative to at least look at the judge's background and history in view of Dutch's words. No more then that; I am not really familiar with the issues involved at all. Maybe I should be, but I am not. But it was not intended as a "gotcha" per se, since FGM does not seem like a good thing to me, I'm just not familiar with this issue as much as some in this thread may be.

I also had in mind Trump's recent condemnation of the 9th circuit, and Justice Robert's claim that we have no Obama or Trump judges, Bush or Clinton judges, and now Trump's insistance that we do have Obama judges and they are biased against Trump. It just seemed useful to at least look at the judge's background in view of the Trump/Roberts exchange as well. I felt if Dutch was essentially saying this was the ruling of a "progressive" judge, then we may as well look at the judge. So I googled up a couple of pages. I think the fact that Reagan's name was in bold type could make it seem like a "gotcha" effort, but, again, I did not create the bold type, and it was nothing more then me providing background info on who appointed this judge, and some sort of resume of the judge. To me, at least, that's just objective info, and not an effort at gotcha at all.

Reagan appointed the judge. That's just an objective fact. Not a "gotcha" because I really don't know anything about this judge before this ruling, and I am not somehow pro-FGM.
Nothing wrong with looking closer at the judge is all....
 
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Stars Fan said:
Hey!
layoff Red.

He was addressing the political taunt in the OP. Red did not introduce the buffoonery, so chill out.





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Yeah, I think that was about the size of it. Dutch seem to be saying progressives are pro-FGM, so I thought a look at the judge was in order. I am still unclear about the ruling or what it means going forward. I'm just not up to speed on the issue, and I thought it would be weird if progressives were pro-FGM. I think Dutch was wrong if that is what he was implying.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Typical gotcha post by Red.

You self absorbed, poor pity me and everyone for everything liberals are completely unrelatable to anyone with a sliver of a conscience. Just so you know.

Reagan appointed him gotcha gotcha gotcha. Give me a ****ing break with that disgusting response. I think mistreatment of women matters much more than your stupid political battle.
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One could also look at it this way. Dutch seemed to be the one saying "gotcha" to liberals and progressives in both the title and his initial post in this thread. But, what evidence is there that liberals and progressives are active supporters of FGM?? I really did believe that must be an absurd claim. And looking at the judge involved seemed to be one avenue called for, in view of Dutch's "gotcha" comments. Dutch basically invited anyone reading this post to regard his comments as political. But, you can judge me as you please. I can't say I have a great deal of respect for many of your contributions here, and your judgement will just have to be water off a duck's back.
 
Liberals love islamism! islamism has 1 goal. to submit the whole world to their political ideal! they will forbid freedom of speech. and turn america into a ********. with barbaric LAWS! welcome to ameristan!

that is my point for some reason as i posted in another thread they migrate to other countries, demand their countries change their ways and culture. and refuse to abide by western laws. and to not offend their political system called islamism. people allow it! this will lead to a civil war. another CRUSADE to drive these barbaric customs out of western culture. or maybe the whole world turns into islamism. and all girls will be forced into fgm! well. maybe thats why you need 2nd amendment to protect your daughters!

it is everyones duty to protect their loved ones with guns. that is not the governments job


edit: this is not an attack of freedom of speech, because i am not referencing the religion called islam. i am refrencing the political system called islaism, which has it own sets of rules and laws(frome conomic laws, to criminal law) it has nothing to do with religion. but islamism is about forcing sharia law on every single person. anybody has the right to be a follower of the religion islam but dont force it onto other people!
 
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Just because a judge determines that a law is not valid based upon jurisdictional issues does not mean that anyone agrees with the underlying issue. So Dutch claiming that female mutilation is legal is not a valid claim. It just means that it is a state issue and not a federal one. I cannot imagine that any state in this country has declared that female mutilation is legal.

And I do not equate female and male mutilation as men can still enjoy sexual feelings after a circumcision. But I am getting less convinced that circumcision should be performed on babies who get no say in the matter.
 
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