gandalfe
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If I could just do it for a few days, I would...Dude for the sake of irony and my endless amusement, you have to change your user name to illiterate pig.
If I could just do it for a few days, I would...Dude for the sake of irony and my endless amusement, you have to change your user name to illiterate pig.
"These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections."Since you call me illiterate, I wonder what it means that you weren't even able to read the second sentence in that link?
You have no older family members or young kids in your family? Colleagues? Friends?The way I see it, I’m fully vaccinated so I have nothing at all to be scared of or judge others of. If the guy next to me on trax right now is unvaccinated, I really don’t care.
Again, in any combo, (Covid before vacc, Covid after vacc, or Vacc without getting Covid) vaccination will provide more protection than without, so I am not sure what there is to argue."These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections."
You illiterate ****ing pig. It provides better protection than natural immunity ALONE. You can't just drop words out of a sentence to fit your narrative.
Here is the end of the summary of the article (since you probably didn't bother clicking on the link: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm?s_cid=mm7032e1_w
First it spells out 5 limitations of the study and says you can't use this article as causation:
"The findings in this report are subject to at least five limitations. First, reinfection was not confirmed through whole genome sequencing, which would be necessary to definitively prove that the reinfection was caused from a distinct virus relative to the first infection. Although in some cases the repeat positive test could be indicative of prolonged viral shedding or failure to clear the initial viral infection (9), given the time between initial and subsequent positive molecular tests among participants in this study, reinfection is the most likely explanation. Second, persons who have been vaccinated are possibly less likely to get tested. Therefore, the association of reinfection and lack of vaccination might be overestimated. Third, vaccine doses administered at federal or out-of-state sites are not typically entered in KYIR, so vaccination data are possibly missing for some persons in these analyses. In addition, inconsistencies in name and date of birth between KYIR and NEDSS might limit ability to match the two databases. Because case investigations include questions regarding vaccination, and KYIR might be updated during the case investigation process, vaccination data might be more likely to be missing for controls. Thus, the OR might be even more favorable for vaccination. Fourth, although case-patients and controls were matched based on age, sex, and date of initial infection, other unknown confounders might be present. Finally, this is a retrospective study design using data from a single state during a 2-month period; therefore, these findings cannot be used to infer causation. Additional prospective studies with larger populations are warranted to support these findings."
Then it reiterates that the study was done on persons previously infected with covid:
"These findings suggest that among persons with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, full vaccination provides additional protection against reinfection. Among previously infected Kentucky residents, those who were not vaccinated were more than twice as likely to be reinfected compared with those with full vaccination. All eligible persons should be offered vaccination, including those with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, to reduce their risk for future infection."
I dislike responding to these posts because it shows the person didn't take time to read through the thread.Again, in any combo, (Covid before vacc, Covid after vacc, or Vacc without getting Covid) vaccination will provide more protection than without, so I am not sure what there is to argue.
Also, getting the virus just to prevent the virus seems to be about the stupidest idea I ever heard.
Ok so if your colleagues are vulnerable, who’s job is it to protect them? It’s unfortunate but it’s on them.You have no older family members or young kids in your family? Colleagues? Friends?
What happens when you get in an accident or diagnosed with cancer and will need to be in unnecessary pain for months because you can't get an elective surgery?
I have older colleagues, friends and family that are more vulnerable, or ineligible for vaccine currently. It isn't about me.
Do you have evidence that medical personnel have been fired in utah?Ok so if your colleagues are vulnerable, who’s job is it to protect them? It’s unfortunate but it’s on them.
As far as elective surgery? Maybe not fire people?
This is such a weird talking point to me. As if we all don’t share in the protection of fellow members of society. One would’ve thought that after nearly 2 years and 700,000+ dead some of you would’ve changed your selfish “im on an island” views. Guess you can’t fix stupid.The way I see it, I’m fully vaccinated so I have nothing at all to be scared of or judge others of. If the guy next to me on trax right now is unvaccinated, I really don’t care as if he gets really sick or dies he made his bed.
The more the virus circulates the more chance for it to mutate and sideline existing vaccines. You may not get sick now or ever or it could be a breeze but down the line, it could grow as a threat again.The way I see it, I’m fully vaccinated so I have nothing at all to be scared of or judge others of. If the guy next to me on trax right now is unvaccinated, I really don’t care as if he gets really sick or dies he made his bed.
This post shows your ignorance. You just don't know what you are talking about.Ok so if your colleagues are vulnerable, who’s job is it to protect them? It’s unfortunate but it’s on them.
As far as elective surgery? Maybe not fire people?
As I said hateThis is such a weird talking point to me. As if we all don’t share in the protection of fellow members of society. One would’ve thought that after nearly 2 years and 700,000+ dead some of you would’ve changed your selfish “im on an island” views. Guess you can’t fix stupid.