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Pursue Kevin Love Around the Draft?

No ball movement during !omg stretches with kyrie running point. Needs to just let LeBron because kyrie keybstretch in 3rd twice brought up ball zero passes and shots missed. Then third possesion turns it over. That when game got out of control



QUOTE=David Stern;1429963]Lue is extremely lucky that he has LeBron and Kyrie, because the offense they run is terrible.[/QUOTE]
 
Gobzilla said:
If LeBron can't win with Love, what makes you think the Jazz can get any more out of him?
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Love is really a completely different player for the Cavs than he was for the wolves. This has everything to do with the role he has. He'd have a bigger offensive role in Utah, and especially if we lose Hayward. He'd also be playing next to the most dominant defensive big in the NBA.

Handlogten's Heros said:
Cavs only trade Love for Paul George or Jimmy Butler... may mean that Love is shipped to a third team though as both the Bulls and Pacers would rebuild.
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I don't think he gets Butler, and only gets George because of the short contract.

I am not so interested in Love in a scenario where we re-sign Hayward and Hill.

However, if we lose those 2 players, I'll go on record that I believe we'll pull off a deal for one of these 3 players:

IT
Love
LMA

You could make an argument that Utah doesn't have the assets necessary, but I don't think it's out of the question. Just for example, I think a lot of teams will have a hard time convincing themselves to pay IT's next contract, which I think drops his value considerably.

Also, between Favors and Hood, we might find some takers to gamble on them getting healthy and taking the next step. Both those guys could be a lot better than they were last year.
 
The way I see it, the only reason to trade for love is if Hayward comes back. No reason to scavenge together a team that can't win a playoff series. If you add another near Hayward/Gobert's level you can start thinking about a conference final.
 
After what I have seen from Love and the Warriors this finals, I don't want him. Warriors will contend for a three peat. Summer 2019, the Warriors probably break up because they cant keep all 4.

We need to focus on a younger player who can evolve with the core. Honestly, I would trade Favors, both picks this year, the OKC pick next year and maybe other assets to get a player for the future. Maybe one of these:

Jabari Parker
Ben Simmons
Somebody we really covet in the draft
Somebody else i havent thought of

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LoPo said:
After what I have seen from Love and the Warriors this finals, I don't want him. Warriors will contend for a three peat. Summer 2019, the Warriors probably break up because they cant keep all 4.

We need to focus on a younger player who can evolve with the core. Honestly, I would trade Favors, both picks this year, the OKC pick next year and maybe other assets to get a player for the future. Maybe one of these:

Jabari Parker
Ben Simmons
Somebody we really covet in the draft
Somebody else i havent thought of

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I think Jazz fans can't stomach a rebuild, but I really believe that IF Hayward leaves this is the best option. Bringing in mediocre or even good players to try to stay playoff competitive will just end with the Jazz losing Rudy. For the past 3-4 years the Jazz have constantly been a step behind where they should be because of grasping at immediate wins instead of taking a longer view when they were breaking up the post-Deron team.

I really hope they don't make a similar mistake if the worst happens and Hayward leaves.
 
Quin's Murderface said:
I think Jazz fans can't stomach a rebuild, but I really believe that IF Hayward leaves this is the best option. Bringing in mediocre or even good players to try to stay playoff competitive will just end with the Jazz losing Rudy. For the past 3-4 years the Jazz have constantly been a step behind where they should be because of grasping at immediate wins instead of taking a longer view when they were breaking up the post-Deron team.

I really hope they don't make a similar mistake if the worst happens and Hayward leaves.
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I don't think that #24 and #30 give Hayward any more incentive to stay. I also dont think trading Favors means we are rebuilding.

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Philly not going trade Simmons so why even mention his name? Seriously



QUOTE=LoPo;1430089]After what I have seen from Love and the Warriors this finals, I don't want him. Warriors will contend for a three peat. Summer 2019, the Warriors probably break up because they cant keep all 4.

We need to focus on a younger player who can evolve with the core. Honestly, I would trade Favors, both picks this year, the OKC pick next year and maybe other assets to get a player for the future. Maybe one of these:

Jabari Parker
Ben Simmons
Somebody we really covet in the draft
Somebody else i havent thought of

Sent from my VS995 using JazzFanz mobile app[/QUOTE]
 
ncoloradojazz said:
Philly not going trade Simmons so why even mention his name? Seriously



QUOTE=LoPo;1430089]After what I have seen from Love and the Warriors this finals, I don't want him. Warriors will contend for a three peat. Summer 2019, the Warriors probably break up because they cant keep all 4.

We need to focus on a younger player who can evolve with the core. Honestly, I would trade Favors, both picks this year, the OKC pick next year and maybe other assets to get a player for the future. Maybe one of these:

Jabari Parker
Ben Simmons
Somebody we really covet in the draft
Somebody else i havent thought of

Sent from my VS995 using JazzFanz mobile app
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This is true. Jabari is intriguing but they're not going to trade him either.

I think Love is the most interesting target we could go after this offseason. I'd love to get Butler or George, but I just don't see either of those trades happening to the Jazz. I think Love is the perfect fit for what the Jazz need, and other than Anthony Davis is probably the best-fitting power forward for our team in the entire NBA. Love is the kind of player who would thrive in the Jazz's system, look really good next to Gobert, and play better as a first or second option again. He's an elite rebounder, elite shooter, and elite passing big man. I'm all for this, and I do think he's getting moved this offseason. I think the Cavs go get Melo, and that might be enough for them to compete with the Warriors
 
So I'm coming back to this idea.

Things we know:
- Love's value isn't that high around the league. Couldn't get George or Butler
- NY is a hot mess. Is it really good for them to just be a 40 win team?
- Phil has said that Melo deserves a chance to go for a title
- Cleveland is a hot mess. Do they really believe they can beat GS with Love, LBJ and Kyrie as the big 3?
- LBJ and Melo have said on numerous occasions how they'd love to play together
- Many of us don't believe that Favors will be here past next summer
- We would love to get a shooter at the PF position to spread the floor for Gobert and the offense
- Many feel like we need to make a move to impress Hayward to stay

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7gw4ctr

Cleveland gets Melo and our 2018 2nd round pick
Utah gets Kevin Love
NY gets Favors and our 2018 1st round pick (lottery protected)
If we have to sweeten the pot, we could include the 2018 OKC pick to NY.
 
LoPo said:
So I'm coming back to this idea.

Things we know:
- Love's value isn't that high around the league. Couldn't get George or Butler
- NY is a hot mess. Is it really good for them to just be a 40 win team?
- Phil has said that Melo deserves a chance to go for a title
- Cleveland is a hot mess. Do they really believe they can beat GS with Love, LBJ and Kyrie as the big 3?
- LBJ and Melo have said on numerous occasions how they'd love to play together
- Many of us don't believe that Favors will be here past next summer
- We would love to get a shooter at the PF position to spread the floor for Gobert and the offense
- Many feel like we need to make a move to impress Hayward to stay

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7gw4ctr

Cleveland gets Melo and our 2018 2nd round pick
Utah gets Kevin Love
NY gets Favors and our 2018 1st round pick (lottery protected)
If we have to sweeten the pot, we could include the 2018 OKC pick to NY.
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One of the more interesting ideas you've posted.
 
I'd revisit the PG three way... I just can't imagine Indiana doesn't think Favors, Hood, and our 1st next year is that bad... considering what Butler went for... I also can't see us saying Love for Favs, Hood, and a 1st next year is bad value. It would put PG in Cleveland and they look like the Juggernaut of the east. Love being here is a good fit basketball wise and I think if we retained Hill we'd be damned good and Hayward would see it.

Big swing for DL here... how much of a gambler is he... if we have to give up the OKC pick too then fine.
 
LoPo said:
So I'm coming back to this idea.

Things we know:
- Love's value isn't that high around the league. Couldn't get George or Butler
- NY is a hot mess. Is it really good for them to just be a 40 win team?
- Phil has said that Melo deserves a chance to go for a title
- Cleveland is a hot mess. Do they really believe they can beat GS with Love, LBJ and Kyrie as the big 3?
- LBJ and Melo have said on numerous occasions how they'd love to play together
- Many of us don't believe that Favors will be here past next summer
- We would love to get a shooter at the PF position to spread the floor for Gobert and the offense
- Many feel like we need to make a move to impress Hayward to stay

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7gw4ctr

Cleveland gets Melo and our 2018 2nd round pick
Utah gets Kevin Love
NY gets Favors and our 2018 1st round pick (lottery protected)
If we have to sweeten the pot, we could include the 2018 OKC pick to NY.
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I think the OKC pick would need to go to Cleveland in this scenario.
 
I think there could be a little clog in the trade system. With Melo, George, and LMA all being distressed assets, I'm sure their teams are trying to figure out a way to swap amongst themselves before taking pennies on the dollar elsewhere.
 
NAOS said:
I think there could be a little clog in the trade system. With Melo, George, and LMA all being distressed assets, I'm sure their teams are trying to figure out a way to swap amongst themselves before taking pennies on the dollar elsewhere.
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You are forgetting Porzy but not as bird rights. Omar how I would love to see him paired next to Rudy.
 
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