www.theguardian.com
thehill.com
What about states rights?
Remember folks, a vote for Republicans In the midterms is a vote to ban abortion nationally.
Is that what you really want?
McConnell says national abortion ban ‘possible’
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said in an interview with USA Today that a national abortion ban is “possible” if Roe v. Wade gets overturned this summer. “If the l…
I’d also like to know:
fivethirtyeight.com
I think one issue that complicates this debate is people conflate reasons for others getting abortions in negative light (they’re lazy and don’t want to be parents) with reasons for why they’d get abortions (wife’s health in danger, rape/incest, etc). Hell, most Americans don’t even know what Roe protects and limits. There’s a lot of nuance to abortion and unfortunately a lot of people are relying on bad faith and emotion to carry their poor arguments.
You and Gameface can’t even put 5 mins to research the poll. You have all these questions yet you want someone else to do the work.I’d also like to know:
1. What the “total” column represents. It’s not clear to me.
2. Is the question “who’s excited for the midterms?” Or “who’s excited to overturn Roe v Wade” because the post combines the two.
3. Was this among Republicans? Democrats? Mixed? It doesn’t say.
4. Was this an online poll? Landline poll? Was it national or done in a state? What was the sample size? It doesn’t say.
5. The age breakdown would honestly be more helpful than breaking it down between “whites” and ppl of color.” Again, the poll isn’t clear who’s taking this poll. Why doesn’t this post provide a link to the poll? Seems suspicious, almost like they’re hiding something. I’m sure Al wouldn’t ever argue in bad faith.
This is by far a better insight into American views of abortion:
Where Americans Stand On Abortion, In 5 Charts
UPDATE (June 24, 2022, 12:31 p.m.): On Friday, the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, which established the constitutional right to abortion in 1973, with fi…
It’s not as clear cut as one might think
I think one issue that complicates this debate is people conflate reasons for others getting abortions in negative light (they’re lazy and don’t want to be parents) with reasons for why they’d get abortions (wife’s health in danger, rape/incest, etc). Hell, most Americans don’t even know what Roe protects and limits. There’s a lot of nuance to abortion and unfortunately a lot of people are relying on bad faith and emotion to carry their poor arguments.
Americans overwhelmingly believe abortion should be legal AND have some limitations. Protections already in place. But because abortion has been used for decades now to motivate Republicans to the polls and raise money for churches and politicians, there’s a lot of disinformation out there.
Overruling Roe takes away the abortion right in most red states and as we’re seeing, doesn’t end with abortion. It’s bleeding into privacy, birth control, marriage laws, IVF, etc. As red state politicians climb over each other to out-conservative each other and bad faith actors from churches and The Federalist Society push for more restrictive legislation, we’ll continue to see rights for women, the LGBT community, and others erode.
This is a major problem. Republicans are using the courts and states as a way to take away rights, not expand them. They’ll use state rights arguments to erode these rights until they have the majority in Congress and the White House. Then they’ll switch to using the federal government as a bartering ram to codify their restrictive laws. Birth control, IVF, adoption, gay marriage, etc are all on the ballot.
You presented the ****ing poll. ****ing lecture me me about it.
Nothing strengthens one’s argument more than to beg for others to find the information that the one failed or refused to provide.
I’m not going to do his job for him and figure out what cherry picked stats from this poll his tweet was using. But I will call him out on his lying.
I did provide the information and it wasn’t very hard to find. It was literally on tweet. You or Gameface can’t even read the tweet. Nothing was hidden, you just didn’t want to do the research of the poll.
You obviously can’t read the tweet either. It’s not about about overturning roe. It’s about who is enthusiastic for voting for mid term and the views on roe. You guys can sit here and complain about one side and its policies. Yet your side is not as enthusiastic to show up and vote. The most important thing to help your side. So when the right over takes congress in a few short months, all we will get is from you two is even more bitching.
You've got to go pretty far down that PDF link to find the ONE SINGLE THING on it out of hundreds of questions (I don't know if it's literally hundreds but there are a lot of different questions) that puts a positive spin on the abortion issue for those who support overturning Roe V Wade.
I agree that Democrats/the left aren't as enthusiastic about politics as the right. That is a good thing. Being obsessed about politics is stupid imo. I'm sure the right is more excited to vote than the left as the right loves them some politics. They be watching hella Fox news all day. Dem ratings doe.
