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Jazz Traveler said:
-27 degrees yesterday morning here. Up to - 17 today with a -36 windchill. Wind chills are supposed to hit -45 to -55 later today. I decided shoveling my driveway could wait.

I hate winter.
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That is absolutely ridiculous. The coldest I've ever felt was -14 with maybe another -5 or so tacked on due to wind chill. I can't even imagine ~-50.. that's insane.
 
People still think global warming is a hoax? Holy crap. When 99% of environmental scientists are warning us that it's the real deal, and the other 1% are funded/employed/bribed by the oil companies, and we're experiencing crazy weather across the map, I think we know who to believe.
 
Marty McFly said:
People still think global warming is a hoax? Holy crap. When 99% of environmental scientists are warning us that it's the real deal, and the other 1% are funded/employed/bribed by the oil companies, and we're experiencing crazy weather across the map, I think we know who to believe.
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99%? Making up statistics now?

I don't think people realize how big the Earth is versus the human population. Based on size alone, I don't believe it's possible. The Earth has naturally had temperatures rise and fall all over the globe, to extremes we've never been close to monitoring, and it had nothing to do with humanity before. What makes you think it's humanity now? Arrogance? The Earth is HUGE and maybe .05% of it is producing a reasonable quantity of these harmful gasses that are supposedly having global effects. Take a zillion steps back and measure the Earth. Then measure the largest, pollution-producing cities. It's not even close. The amount of gas naturally within the Earth's atmosphere in comparison to how much we actually affect is monstrously unfair in favor of nature. To believe we've had catastrophic affects on the global climate is a ridiculous notion.
 
Marty McFly said:
People still think global warming is a hoax? Holy crap. When 99% of environmental scientists are warning us that it's the real deal, and the other 1% are funded/employed/bribed by the oil companies, and we're experiencing crazy weather across the map, I think we know who to believe.
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99 % of scientists?

Are we talking about those same scientists that fudged numbers and asked other scientists to change numbers/not publish studies that didn't feed this global warming nonsense? Gee, sounds like some great science at work! Funny, you talk about scientists being bribed by oil companies as if the "other" side didn't engaged in the same tactics.

Crazy weather? Ummmm we've always had crazy weather. I have no doubt that the weather was just as crazy 200... 500... and 1000 years ago. The only difference is that more is being reported and more is being heard. Just 100 years ago it took weeks for news on one side of the globe to reach the other. Not exactly the same today with the Internet and cellphones.

As far as ideal temperatures, could anyone tell me what the "ideal" global temperature should be?
 
This might open some eyes to people. Watch out global warmers, here's some facts! Run!!!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/10/inconvenient-truth-ice-cap-growing/

Arctic ice is increasing not deceasing. Why would there be any periods of decreasing if the globe is continuously getting warmer?

Also, global heating on Mars! But wait, how many cars and factories are there?

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/07aug_southpole/

The south polar ice cap of Mars is receding, revealing frosty mountains, rifts and curious dark spots.

But I thought ice only melted on earth because of big evil oil and factories and people driving *gasp* cars with balls?

It's okay, I'm sure the Toyota Pirus is going to save us all. Or that crappy electic car that Chevy put out. Pop quiz, if a car runs on electricity, how is the electricity produced?

But but but, I thought we were trying to lower greenhouse gases?

So if everyone transfers to electric cars, the greenhouse gases produced by fuel combustion engines will just be replaced by the greenhouse gases emitted from power plants.

Of course, other alternatives are out there, such as Nuclear power. But even then, the greenies won't budge.

Essentially, they want to have their cake and eat it too. They want energy, but refuse to offer any realistic alternatives and shoot down all the others.
Wind, highly unpredictable, takes up large amounts of space, kills animals, and cannot store energy.
Solar, extremely expensive, unpredictable, solar panels are produced from oil, take up large amounts of land, can cause damage to wildlife, and cannot store energy.
Hydroelectric. Predictable. But the greenies hate destroying wildlife and creating dams.

sigh... What can we do when everything humans do kills or destroys something?
 
The Thriller said:
This might open some eyes to people. Watch out global warmers, here's some facts! Run!!!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/10/inconvenient-truth-ice-cap-growing/

Arctic ice is increasing not deceasing. Why would there be any periods of decreasing if the globe is continuously getting warmer?

Also, global heating on Mars! But wait, how many cars and factories are there?

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/07aug_southpole/

The south polar ice cap of Mars is receding, revealing frosty mountains, rifts and curious dark spots.

But I thought ice only melted on earth because of big evil oil and factories and people driving *gasp* cars with balls?

It's okay, I'm sure the Toyota Pirus is going to save us all. Or that crappy electic car that Chevy put out. Pop quiz, if a car runs on electricity, how is the electricity produced?

But but but, I thought we were trying to lower greenhouse gases?

So if everyone transfers to electric cars, the greenhouse gases produced by fuel combustion engines will just be replaced by the greenhouse gases emitted from power plants.

Of course, other alternatives are out there, such as Nuclear power. But even then, the greenies won't budge.

Essentially, they want to have their cake and eat it too. They want energy, but refuse to offer any realistic alternatives and shoot down all the others.
Wind, highly unpredictable, takes up large amounts of space, kills animals, and cannot store energy.
Solar, extremely expensive, unpredictable, solar panels are produced from oil, take up large amounts of land, can cause damage to wildlife, and cannot store energy.
Hydroelectric. Predictable. But the greenies hate destroying wildlife and creating dams.

sigh... What can we do when everything humans do kills or destroys something?
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But don't you think it sucks *** to breathe pollution from too many cars, and that should be reason enough to identify ways to avoid making more pollution? I know it's in the Bible somewhere, about "O ye, for the earth shall fruitfully forbear upon, and whence lands become forth unto, and the Lord did say "**** it, you guys, let's do NASCAR.""
 
I drive a Prius. Mostly because of 2 factors. 1) I get 48 MPG or thereabouts over the life of the car and I got it pretty cheap brand new and 2) I am 6'2" and 300 lbs. I just look awesome in that little car. Makes me think of this whenever I get in it:

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I am very glad I am in Reno. Nice weather for the most part (50's) and no snow and sunshine. But the east must be a mess. My company announced more than 15 branch closures due to weather. Yikes!
 
LogGrad98 said:
I drive a Prius. Mostly because of 2 factors. 1) I get 48 MPG or thereabouts over the life of the car and I got it pretty cheap brand new and 2) I am 6'2" and 300 lbs. I just look awesome in that little car.
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Aren't those the cars that have some ridiculous price tag on their replacement batteries? Isn't that gonna suck *** when that day comes?
 
unluckyseventeen said:
Aren't those the cars that have some ridiculous price tag on their replacement batteries? Isn't that gonna suck *** when that day comes?
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No because I got an 8-year unlimited mileage warranty on the hybrid system (batteries included...lol) and the resale value is stupidly high. I will be out of it and into probably another new one before it becomes an issue.

Frankly I love my Prius. Fun to drive. Much bigger inside than you would think. Crammed 3 kids, wife and myself and luggage in there for a 5 day trip to Disneyland. Bells and whistles? Hell it is a rolling gadget. Great mileage. Hardly any maintenance issues in almost 100k miles. There was an issue with the HID headlamps but Toyota took care of it. I would highly recommend and I couldn't care less if it is green or not. Saves me money and is a nice little ride.

Oh yeah to keep with the thread, it does fantastic in the snow. Front wheel drive obviously with traction control. It just putts right up the snow-covered hills others are slipping on and stops nicely in slick conditions.

Plus you can do this:

https://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2009/01/man-powers-home.html

Sweeney hooked his Toyota Prius up to an inverter and powered his home for three days.
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Do THAT with an SUV.
 
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