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LogGrad98 said:
What is red vs blue week?
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Reno is no excuse for feigning ignorance about the hardest line of public division in Utah.

When I had to make my choice, I was already a RM with two years of hardcore brainwashing crammed between my ears, stuffed up my nose, down my throat and up my butt. I analyzed my plight and realized that if I went to BYU I'd just end up being a rebel for life. At least, at the U of U, I'd be rebelling against things that deserved to be rebelled against.

So I'm a Utah Man, Sir. And I wear the Red during Red and Blue week. And I rebel against leftwing socialism while I smile at rightwing JP Morgan/Chase, Goldman Sachs bought and paid-for political ideology. . . . .

Ah, hell, I'm all messed up. I rebel against everything.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];659798 said:
People have been killed and/or hospitalized in labor disputes.


Oh, ****, I """biffed""" the retirement. I guess we as board should get used to this.
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stoked can we get a forced retirement here please?

Thanks! Buh-bye!
 
babe said:
Reno is no excuse for feigning ignorance about the hardest line of public division in Utah.

When I had to make my choice, I was already a RM with two years of hardcore brainwashing crammed between my ears, stuffed up my nose, down my throat and up my butt. I analyzed my plight and realized that if I went to BYU I'd just end up being a rebel for life. At least, at the U of U, I'd be rebelling against things that deserved to be rebelled against.

So I'm a Utah Man, Sir. And I wear the Red during Red and Blue week. And I rebel against leftwing socialism while I smile at rightwing JP Morgan/Chase, Goldman Sachs bought and paid-for political ideology. . . . .

Ah, hell, I'm all messed up. I rebel against everything.
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The funny thing is there are more reds at BYU and blues at the U, politically speaking.
 
babe said:
. Rhett Butler literally emancipated males captivated by Southern Culture when he said, to Scarlett O'Hara--- a classic figure of female dysfunctional relations--- "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
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I have a few questions about this sentence.

1) Are you familiar with "Gone with the Wind?"
2) Is it your contention that females were so dominant during the mid 1800's in the South that men needed a hero to emancipate them from the overall culture?
3) Did you read this interpretation of the work somewhere? And if so, can you tell me where so that I may acquire copies for my amusement?
4) Do you believe that the primary problem with Southern culture is that it gives too much power to female dysfunction?
5) Is this the most accurate depiction of Southern culture in modern media?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz9rQsutfuo
 
Stoked said:
Keep in mind that I am in no way comparing the history of these words/terms beucase lets be honest there is no comparison. Having said that here we go...

Is political hate more intense and divisive right now, in this moment in time, than any other hate or "ism" (sexism, racism, religious bigotry...) in America? Is political hate merely being given different names? Such as racism or communism?

Thoughts?
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Nope I would say that the anti-homosexual thing is the most commonly accepted and fervent form of hate in America today, except maybe Muslims or Mexicans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vm-8eXFgqA
 
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heyhey said:
Nope I would say that the anti-homosexual thing is the most commonly accepted and fervent form of hate in America today, except maybe Muslims or Mexicans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vm-8eXFgqA
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You watch Red Dwarf and are familiar with Tom Lehrer? Are you secretly related to me? I feel like I need to start a bromance with you somehow.
 
I would say that relative to other political climates of the last 30 years, that this era is much more divisive, divided, intolerant, and ignorant. Outside of that, I'm not so sure.

This nation has survived much more toxic socio-political issues, FWIW. But I'm not saying that we're not living in a toxic age.
 
Stoked said:
It's a question asking if you think that's the case. How is that an exaggeration?
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Because it's obviously not the case. Political differences have yet to lead to murder, physical segregation, or differences in income.
 
JimLes said:
Because it's obviously not the case. Political differences have yet to lead to murder, physical segregation, or differences in income.
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If I speak for my country...

Murder, check...
Physical segregation, check...
Differences in income, check...

Anything else, JimLes?
 
You Americans have great advantages coming from your social codes, political culture etc. that is added to an active economy. First of all, whoever enters the society as an American citizen acknowledges and digests the social identity and put it in front of the racial identity. People from other federations in such a big country have common values towards being an American. When there is a talk of some threat, everybody puts their differences aside. Of course there are sub-cultural serious conflicts, but on macro level the society-country is on strong roots. This is something many other -hell maybe no country possess. So they face conflicts and violence rooted on political hate that ends with consequences you cannot even imagine of. People go complete frenzy out of it. This also happens because of the absence of a strong identity that erases major conflicts. Therefore these other countries have problems like separation of a part of the country, religious conflicts hell even hooliganism which to me is another end result of strong-indentitylessness.
 
JimLes said:
Because it's obviously not the case. Political differences have yet to lead to murder, physical segregation, or differences in income.
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OK, follow up question then. Do you think it will get worse and get to the point where high level crimes are based on politics alone?

As for the bolded part you are already seeing a self imposed segragation. Take a look at a voting map and movement trends. The west coast, new england and great lakes areas are increasingly blue and the south, midwest and mountain west areas are increasingly red.
 
JimLes said:
Because it's obviously not the case. Political differences have yet to lead to murder, physical segregation, or differences in income.
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I'll try one more time:

Look up the history of labor disputes. That's politics on the ground floor, and it'll give you everything you just listed.


Thanks for playing
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];659985 said:
I'll try one more time:

Look up the history of labor disputes. That's politics on the ground floor, and it'll give you everything you just listed.


Thanks for playing
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I tried looking for those crimes where politics is listed but they always blame it on something else.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I would say that relative to other political climates of the last 30 years, that this era is much more divisive, divided, intolerant, and ignorant. Outside of that, I'm not so sure.

This nation has survived much more toxic socio-political issues, FWIW. But I'm not saying that we're not living in a toxic age.
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I'm not so sure it's worse relative to the last 30 years. I think the internet and social media may make it seem that way though.**

On a societal level, I think there's probably more tolerance of many issues than 25 years ago (take homosexuality for one, and gender issues for another) - but those individuals (or groups of individuals) who are intolerant do so much more openly and aggressively than was the case 25 years ago.


**I think I'll add cable television and reality tv to that list
 
Well, it's a good thing that interpreters don't have to follow exactly what comes out of the horses' mouths. Labor issues are always blamed on a multitude of things... we have to distract ourselves from the hard reality of profit, and the fact that we've been reduced to our capacity to sell our labor.
 
moevillini said:
I'm not so sure it's worse relative to the last 30 years. I think the internet and social media may make it seem that way though.**

On a societal level, I think there's probably more tolerance of many issues than 25 years ago (take homosexuality for one, and gender issues for another) - but those individuals (or groups of individuals) who are intolerant do so much more openly and aggressively than was the case 25 years ago.

**I think I'll add cable television and reality tv to that list
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I agree that many issues have seen substantial progress and hightened tolerance. But unfortunately that is not all of politics. Take Social Security, imigration, healthcare, foreign policy...all areas of very intense divides. So yes some areas are better but some are worse. I think on the whole America is very, very divided. To be honest I only see it getting worse.
 
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