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GVC said:
edit: Along with being forbidden from holding the priesthood, African-American members could not receive temple ordinances, thus, as stated above, achieve the highest glory in the Celestial Kingdom (or, you know, be sealed to their spouse(s)).
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It's my understanding that once they enter God's presence they are given the opportunity to receive all the blessings that they did not receive while on earth.
 
Scat said:
It's my understanding that once they enter God's presence they are given the opportunity to receive all the blessings that they did not receive while on earth.
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I would have guessed that to be the doctrine now, but that was not the doctrine pre-1978 FWIW.
 
and I'm not posting this for any other reason than to correct beantown. As I said before, believe what you like. What other people think happens after death (as long as it doesn't adversely affect their behavior when they're alive) is of no consequence in my life.
 
NUMBERICA said:
These aren't small mistakes. For whatever reason, I guess God had a real love affair with the worst secretaries imaginable.


God: Tell everyone my love is unending and there is eternal salvation for any that should seek it.

Young: Oh, blacks can't have the priesthood because of a curse, it shall never be lifted, or it shall under ridiculous conditions, blacks are uncouth, uncomely, of sub-human intelligence, and wild, and if you marry interracially god will strike you down? Got it. Crystal.

God: ... (for 130 years) Oh, sorry! I was busy. Brigham, you heard me wrong. Brigham?

Kimball: I'm here, sir.

God: Oh, yes, well, every male is to have the opportunity to earn the priesthood.

OR

God: Remember how the restorer of the one true gospel gave the priesthood to two black guys?

Young: Yeah.

God: Just kidding. They're grand-fathered in, they're cool, but you can't let any other black guys have the priesthood.

Young: Why not?

God: Because Cain slew Abel 6,000 years ago.

Young: Okay, that's cool. But why now suddenly? This was never a specific policy before, and even if it was, did it just slip your mind in those many direct conversations with President Smith?

God: Don't worry about it. That's just how it is, and how it will be forever or somewhere pretty close to it.

Young: Okay.



I'm pretty bummed if these are the best answers the arbiter of creation and his chosen mouth-piece(s) have for us.
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Explained:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5X4N2exOsU
 
GVC said:
and I'm not posting this for any other reason than to correct beantown. As I said before, believe what you like. What other people think happens after death (as long as it doesn't adversely affect their behavior when they're alive) is of no consequence in my life.
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Yea but GVC from what I remember you are Atheist or at least don't believe in the Bible. If you are Christian and believe in all the of Bible then that comes with understanding that God has held certain church ordinances or callings from certain groups of people. How God sets up his church on earth through time is his decision. But I also understand that church leaders over the history of man have had weakness and not been able to carry out what he wanted properly.

Again, If you believe in the God of the Bible then you believe that God has given priesthood to some, and taken it from others....and so on....as well as given Temple blessings to some, and not to others.

So I don't understand why you're trying to understand Africans in the priesthood when you don't even have a fundamental belief in God, Christ or the Bible.


If I was mistaken on your beliefs then I'm sorry but from what I remember you saying in the past I believe Im not far off.
 
Beantown said:
Scriptures are the only place I get church doctrine from.
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So the prophet speaking today does not count as doctrine in your mind? I would think if a letter came down from the First Presidency saying something to the effect of "The policy of the Church is..." that would be considered doctrine.
 
GVC said:
I prefer non-theist, and no, I don't believe the bible to be anything more than tribal bull-****.
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So then don't stress out about this stuff.....If you were a Baptist talking about Africans not getting the priesthood for a period of time then its easy..I could just call you a hypocrite.
 
catratcho said:
So the prophet speaking today does not count as doctrine in your mind? I would think if a letter came down from the First Presidency saying something to the effect of "The policy of the Church is..." that would be considered doctrine.
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I agree, but I am in the view that whatever church leaders or "the church" comes out with as doctrine or policy would be backed up with some substance. Which is where scriptures come into play.

I dont think the church expects us to follow blindly, though a lot of members would have people think that.
 
Beantown said:
So then don't stress out about this stuff.
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? This is a message board: A place to share our opinions/knowledge on a variety of topics (that are generally of interest to us). I'm just here correcting your mistakes. Try not to assume you know my motives in doing so. Try to take what I write at face value, and I'll try to do the same. Cool?
 
Beantown said:
I agree, but I am in the view that whatever church leaders or "the church" comes out with as doctrine or policy would be backed up with some substance. Which is where scriptures come into play.

I dont think the church expects us to follow blindly, though a lot of members would have people think that.
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What mistake did you correct?
 
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