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So if a guy advocating for civil rights isn't a good guy, what does that mean for civil rights?

Nothing. He was an advocate. He advocated for something that was right, with or without him. Civil rights are something black people should have. Martin Luther King didn't make that true. It's just true.

In 2019 it would mean people would lose their **** if it were true. It would mean people would demand for his statues to come down, his books to be pulled and his story to silenced. It would mean, "I have a dream" would be tarnished and mocked by many. It would create more racial tension.

It would mean a hell of a lot more than "nothing" if true. I saying that I hope it gets brushed under the rug is a figure of speech because I fear what people's reaction's would be. I guess it's harder to say how I feel about it than simply putting it in words.
 
In 2019 it would mean people would lose their **** if it were true. It would mean people would demand for his statues to come down, his books to be pulled and his story to silenced. It would mean, "I have a dream" would be tarnished and mocked by many. It would create more racial tension.

It would mean a hell of a lot more than "nothing" if true. I saying that I hope it gets brushed under the rug is a figure of speech because I fear what people's reaction's would be. I guess it's harder to say how I feel about it than simply putting it in words.

This is the correct answer, the national Holiday representing the civil Rights struggle is his birthday. He is the hero of that moment. It can't be glossed over.

The thing I wonder is that this has probably been known by many for a while. Why is this being pursued now?
 
The thing I wonder is that this has probably been known by many for a while. Why is this being pursued now?

It seems like the last few years society has had an obsession with digging up people's pasts. Even if people have atoned or moved on from their past aggressions, a lot of people don't dismiss it and want condemnation.

It looks like some are defending Garrow and some historians are attacking him.

This is probably a poor comparison, but when I was growing up and learning about Columbus and his history, he was always talked highly about. Nowadays, it seems like his name is tarnished and many hate him because his true history is being taught. Many want to do away with Columbus day too.
 


TIL I learned this band wrote this about Brandon Jennings and Scott Skiles' coach/player relationship. It's actually pretty decent. Super random though.
 
Thomg as Jefferson was a paragon of liberty, and a slave owner who raped his slaves (in effect, since they had no choice in the matter). A great man, capable of great good and great evil. You could similar things about every person on Rushmore, and many more besides.

Again, all we have is third-hand testimony that second-hand testimony, written by partisans motivated to attack King, exists. King may or may not have done these things. If he did, he was another great man who did a great evil. If we lose King's birthday for this, can we keep President's Day?
 
It seems like the last few years society has had an obsession with digging up people's pasts. Even if people have atoned or moved on from their past aggressions, a lot of people don't dismiss it and want condemnation.

It looks like some are defending Garrow and some historians are attacking him.

This is probably a poor comparison, but when I was growing up and learning about Columbus and his history, he was always talked highly about. Nowadays, it seems like his name is tarnished and many hate him because his true history is being taught. Many want to do away with Columbus day too.

The thing is, that if someone else had revealed this, Garrow probably would have been the first person that many would have called to debunk it. I believe that he has been sitting on this for a long time and only recently went to gather the "proof." Why him, and why now? He already literally wrote the book on King, why this weird addendum? Garrow is a pretty dedicated Socialist, is there something about King that rubs socialists the wrong way? I just can't believe this whole thing is random.
 
It seems like the last few years society has had an obsession with digging up people's pasts. Even if people have atoned or moved on from their past aggressions, a lot of people don't dismiss it and want condemnation.

It looks like some are defending Garrow and some historians are attacking him.

This is probably a poor comparison, but when I was growing up and learning about Columbus and his history, he was always talked highly about. Nowadays, it seems like his name is tarnished and many hate him because his true history is being taught. Many want to do away with Columbus day too.
Anymore simple allegation is enough to convict in the court of public opinion.
 
I dont really care about the affairs but the other stuff is really bad if true. It will definitely tarnish him some. But a lot of people who have done great things have also done some bad things, like Mandela.
Hoover who was a racist hated King and began surveillance of him early on. Also, James Earl Ray is suspected of being part of a plot to kill King that may have involved some elements of the FBI.
 
TIL DWade said a prayer at a Mormon baptism.

https://www.ldsdaily.com/entertainm...s-closing-prayer-at-latter-day-saint-baptism/

I keep telling my gf, who's from Florida, that the weather this year is a sure sign of the apocalypse or we're living in an alternate reality. Argue me this.

Trump becoming president.
AOC
Utah's weather.
UFOs/aliens - (I dare you to argue me this)
I get along with Kicky
The Raptors are 3-1 on the Warriors
Straight Pride Parades
YouTube demonetizating Crowder
Game of Thrones' last season ruined the series
DWade giving prayers at Mormon services
I have to clarify this is a joke
Someone still being offended by this somehow



(This is all tongue-in-cheek, don't be offended)
 
TIL DWade said a prayer at a Mormon baptism.

https://www.ldsdaily.com/entertainm...s-closing-prayer-at-latter-day-saint-baptism/

I keep telling my gf, who's from Florida, that the weather this year is a sure sign of the apocalypse or we're living in an alternate reality. Argue me this.

Trump becoming president.
AOC
Utah's weather.
UFOs/aliens - (I dare you to argue me this)
I get along with Kicky
The Raptors are 3-1 on the Warriors
Straight Pride Parades
YouTube demonetizating Crowder
Game of Thrones' last season ruined the series
DWade giving prayers at Mormon services
I have to clarify this is a joke
Someone still being offended by this somehow



(This is all tongue-in-cheek, don't be offended)

Only offensive thing is you feeling the need to clarify, repeatedly, this is a joke.

****ing wankers.
 
Wouldn't wanking ****ers be more correct? Where's @Rubashov , he's an expert on wanking.
 
TIL the book Moby-Dick is written with a hyphen even though the whale in the book is written as Moby Dick, no hyphen.
 
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