Trey Burke and his shooting (and the Jazz winning)

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

In games where Trey misses 10 or more shots, the Jazz are 1 - 4 (.200).

In games where Trey misses 9 or fewer shots, the Jazz are 4 - 4 (.500).

In games where Trey misses 6 or fewer shots, the Jazz are 3 - 1 (.750).


Not a big sample here, but the Jazz appear to be markedly more successful when Trey throws fewer bricks.

The problem isn't really that Trey is shooting. The problem is that Trey is missing.

 

[fishonjazz]

The problem isn't really that Trey is shooting. The problem is that Trey is missing.

Maybe the philosophy should be "if you don't shoot it, you can't miss it."

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Maybe the philosophy should be "if you don't shoot it, you can't miss it."

If Trey can get up to 44% shooting on open looks, I'm fine with him shooting them. The problem is he's taking usage away from other guys with a higher TS%.

 

[Fabtrey]

8-12 20pts tonite. yeay. clap clap clap

 

[orangello]

8-12 20pts tonite. yeay. clap clap clap

Yep, just updated the info.

BTW, you do realize the team lost, right?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Yep, just updated the info.

BTW, you do realize the team lost, right?

In addition to his inconsistent shooting, Trey's defense is also often a liability. I'm not saying Burke is the reason we lost last night. Anthony Davis was basically unstoppable. But Trey's matchup with J'rue Holiday in the 4th quarter was a mismatch that the Pellies exploited until Burke was pulled.

 

[fishonjazz]

Burke was really good last night and should get no blame for the loss

 

[orangello]

Burke was really good last night and should get no blame for the loss

Because a good offensive game makes up for bad defense?

 

[fishonjazz]

Because a good offensive game makes up for bad defense?

Everyone in the nba gets scored on imo.
Nobody is shutting anyone down.

 

[fishonjazz]

Also, trey was not guarding Davis iirc.
And I remember trey getting two blocks.

He played a very good game

 

[orangello]

Everyone in the nba gets scored on imo.
Nobody is shutting anyone down.

I never expect anyone to be "shut down" but slowed down would be nice. Holiday scored at will in the second half. It was disturbing.

You are right though, many players played poorly and barely competed on defense, not just Trey. He is not the sole reason the team lost.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Because a good offensive game makes up for bad defense?

Who on this team has played good defense in the past week.

 

[orangello]

Who on this team has played good defense in the past week.

Please read my post above.

I still believe the biggest need for this team is a tough wing defender.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Please read my post above.

I still believe the biggest need for this team is a tough wing defender.

Max Jimmeh Butler. Or trade for Bradley.


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Who on this team has played good defense in the past week.

We played good defense on everyone besides Anthony Davis. Holiday got us towards the end, but it's not like he went off.

 

[orangello]

Max Jimmeh Butler. Or trade for Bradley.


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I like the former much more than the latter.

Justice Winslow would also be a good pick up IMO.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Or we could just trade for Schroeder and have him play 40 mpg.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

Max Jimmeh Butler. Or trade for Bradley.


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Max? No but I'd throw 5 years, 70M at him--if we even have the space to do it. My concern would be is he a product of Thibs and Noah? My other concern would be how it affects our ability to get better up front since it seems evident Kanter is not going to be a starter on a team that makes a deep playoff run. Basically, that would be a ton of money tied up at sg and sf, in him, Burks and Hayward.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Gobert and Hayward have been playing good defense, so has Exum.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

Max? No but I'd throw 5 years, 70M at him--if we even have the space to do it. My concern would be is he a product of Thibs and Noah? My other concern would be how it affects our ability to get better up front since it seems evident Kanter is not going to be a starter on a team that makes a deep playoff run. Basically, that would be a ton of money tied up at sg and sf, in him, Burks and Hayward.

To piggyback off of this (from dal's post earlier), if we signed Butler to 5 years, 70M, we'd have what, him, Hayward, Burks and Favors at about 50M next year? Add in Burke and Exum and that virtually assures us of the fact that we do not re-sign Kanter...which I'm fine with fwiw...but it also means we probably won't have the space to sign any big to put alongside Favors for the next five years.