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Are you talking about the game where Shaq got ejected after elbowing AK?
I really don't remember that happening. Probably a different game.
Are you talking about the game where Shaq got ejected after elbowing AK?
I'm pretty sure AK was playing most of his minutes @ the 4 back then.
Harpring is better because he squats?
Did YOU watch any game in 2004? Even if you did, you currently aren't using any arguments about how he played that year if all you're saying is that he squats and is tough. Harpring likely did squats and was tough his last year in the league.
And if Harpring was playing 36 mpg as a "SF" - and he's better than anything that Jazz have now or at least have proven to be to date - that leaves 12 minutes for the bench of SF-by-committee to be so much better than Sasha Pavlovic (who was a decent player) that it makes their rotation better in those 12 minutes. Besides that, I'm pretty sure AK played quite a bit of 3, even if he played mostly 4. A lot of that being because I think the 3 and 4 were interchangeable depending on the set when he and Harpring were on the floor.
I was going to pull up what 82games had to say but this link appears to not be working: https://www.82games.com/0304UTA.HTM
Harpring is better because he squats?
Did YOU watch any game in 2004? Even if you did, you currently aren't using any arguments about how he played that year if all you're saying is that he squats and is tough. Harpring likely did squats and was tough his last year in the league.
Pavlovic? Decent? LOL. Tell me what's decent about 27% from three, or 39.6% from the field. Uncle Jamaal himself arguably had better production last season. Brandon Rush is on another echelon.
He did play 15 mpg though, important considering he was Harpring's main backup. AK was mostly a 4. I guess we'll have to agree-to-disagree here.
A lot of that being because I think the 3 and 4 were interchangeable depending on the set when he and Harpring were on the floor.
You are 100% correct.
There isn't a single "SF" on this roster that can play in or guard the post well.
There is a reason why I compared Hayward to AK and Kanter to Harpring you two...Kanter and Harp both were strongest in the post and could step outside if needed.
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There is a reason why I compared Hayward to AK and Kanter to Harpring you two...Kanter and Harp both were strongest in the post and could step outside if needed.
Hayward and AK were both outside/slashers first (although Hayward is a better shooter and AK a better passer).
Like I said originally, I don't think Kanter can put up Harp #'s and I don't think Hayward can put up AK #'s.
Per game or per 36?
Hey don't be ridiculous. I am pointing to his superior strength and ability to be dominant in the post vs other SF's which none of the SF's have right now. At that time both AK and Harpring where complimenting each other perfectly as they frequently changed their positions on the floor depending on matchups. Even if AK was listed as PF it was actually Harpring who did more post up damage. AK was a slasher and mostly used his quickness to beat opposing PF's. He did quite a bit of ball distribution from outside the paint as well with Harpring being primary recipient on that screen and curl 15-18FT elbow jumper
Now lets look at Hayward - can Jazz dump ball to him in the post and expect him to have same kind of success? Maybe on occasion but you can't depend on it. Can he rebound like Harpring or defend PF's ( which was done a lot as again AK and Harpring where rotating and switching a lot both on defense and offense)? I do not think so.
In general it would be not fair to compare Hayward vs Harpring 2004 as they are way different. If we want to have fair evaluation you need to compare how Harpring/AK played vs Hayward/Favors and what made Harp and AK pairing so successful and unique in 2004.
Did a quick google search. It was Devean George, and there's a video of it on YouTube.