"....The only winning move is not to play ""Sometimes the best move is no move."
-KOC
The problem with that is that there is going to be no shortage of max cap slots out there, and if Rudy won’t take an offer from us that beats what other teams can offer (but still under the super max), that’s a pretty damn good sign that him walking is a totally plausible scenario.If I had to bet I would say the next move is extending Rudy. I think this is the most likely. I kind of doubt we trade Rudy even if they fail to negotiate an extension. I think they will try to play it out like they did with Hayward - they will let him test FA and see if we can convince him to come back.
Anyone who knows us (which includes Danny Ainge) knows those draft picks are heading in the wrong direction.This kind of looked interesting...
This Celtics-Jazz Trade Pairs Donovan Mitchell And Kemba Walker
This trade would send shockwaves through the league. Here is a deal involving veteran players between the Boston Celtics and Utah Jazz.www.nbaanalysis.net
If they are trading him it’s cuz they broke him... just like IT... so make sure you get a warranteeAnyone who knows us (which includes Danny Ainge) knows those draft picks are heading in the wrong direction.
There is nothing I disagree with here. The problem is that I've lost most of my trust in this FO to make reasonable moves and I can absolutely see them keeping Rudy with the hope he will reconsider in the summer or that we will be able to convince him in the summer ... or that he won't have the market, etc. I too think that if they can't reach an agreement on the extension they should trade him. In fact I think they should have put a much earlier artificial deadline for themselves and (if no extension was signed) they should have traded him when everyone was giving out insane deals for borderline all-stars.The problem with that is that there is going to be no shortage of max cap slots out there, and if Rudy won’t take an offer from us that beats what other teams can offer (but still under the super max), that’s a pretty damn good sign that him walking is a totally plausible scenario.
And the Jazz were not just one good big that can’t shoot away from winning a championship. So a play for this year is kinda **** IMO.
I have no doubt the Jazz have offered a max contract that beats what other teams can offer, so he needs to come back to earth on this. The list of players that are worth the supermax is maybe five players long and Rudy sure ain’t on that list.
Yeah, you’re not wrong. My strongest argument against trading Rudy is that the market will not bring anything approaching equal value even before this.There is nothing I disagree with here. The problem is that I've lost most of my trust in this FO to make reasonable moves and I can absolutely see them keeping Rudy with the hope he will reconsider in the summer or that we will be able to convince him in the summer ... or that he won't have the market, etc. I too think that if they can't reach an agreement on the extension they should trade him. In fact I think they should have put a much earlier artificial deadline for themselves and (if no extension was signed) they should have traded him when everyone was giving out insane deals for borderline all-stars.
In my mind it's already too late to get good value for him if you get to the point where you want to trade him. Teams are already set for the new season. Who's going to make an offer and what kind of offer would that be that satisfies the timeline of Mitchell? Because if you are trading Rudy for picks, you might as well start seeking trade options for Mitchell as well. I doubt he will be thrilled to go through either a rebuild or mediocrity and fights for the 8th seed for the duration of his contract.
Too many cooks...Guis, I forgot we had Dell Demps. Even though he’s not FO, it’s amazing that we’ve got four GMs in the franchise and we’re churning out some of these (in)decisions. Perhaps the more DL hires guys whose jobs depend on agreeing with him, it further emboldens him.
I first read that as a “ck.”Too many cooks...
Either orI first read that as a “ck.”
But Dell was a bad GM so not sure it adds anything... at some point it’s just more yes men for DL. “Yes mr Lindsey he has enormous hand pads” “yes mr. Lindsey he is Mike Effing Conley” “ yes mr. Lindsey vertical spacing is a thing”.Guis, I forgot we had Dell Demps. Even though he’s not FO, it’s amazing that we’ve got four GMs in the franchise and we’re churning out some of these (in)decisions. Perhaps the more DL hires guys whose jobs depend on agreeing with him, the further it emboldens him.
but offers NO defenseNiang is not getting cut or traded. He’s going to make some 3’s and piss everyone off once again.