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Handlogten's Heros said:
They don’t have their top pick... one of those FA has to pick them. Having Hood RFA rights is valuable. Sure they could pass on the trade possibly not make the playoffs and offer Hood in the summer but unless they get stupid we would match.

Once LBJ and PG pass up on philly what other top tier UFA they getting. They will be in the mix for KCP and Bradley no doubt but those guys may say no.
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this.

Nobody should crown Philly as a FA destination yet.
 
The thing I want most from this trade season is a 1st round pick for Hood. Hopefully not too deep in the 1st.
 
He ain't going anywhere, we over value him, no one else thinks as highly of him as we do. He will then walk away from us but as he walks away he will get badly injured. He will always be the walking wounded.
 
Rodney Hood (leg contusion) will not play against the Suns on Friday.
He has been working out, but this report adds he's still hobbled. It's fair to say he's not going to return until after the trade deadline, and several reports say he's on the trade block. With him out, it's been Royce O'Neale playing really well, which has capped Alec Burks from producing in fantasy. Feb 1 - 6:17 PM

On IR is where Hood will end up. No matter which organization he is with. I get they are probably holding him out due to the trade process, but this isn't instilling confidence in his health with anyone.
 
  • Brian Windhorst and Bobby Marks
In July 2016, the Portland Trail Blazers signed restricted free agent Meyers Leonard, their backup center, to a four-year, $41 million contract. It was at the tail end of a surge of large contracts given out that summer, the greatest time in NBA history to be a free agent.

This summer, the Blazers' starting center, Jusuf Nurkic, will be a restricted free agent. He might find it hard to draw an offer from an outside team larger than what his backup is being paid.

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In the 2015-16 season, the Boston Celtics assembled an impressive 48-34 season behind the play of a collection of gritty perimeter players. Two of them were Evan Turner and Marcus Smart. Turner was a bit more effective as an offensive creator, Smart more of a defensive grinder. But they played similar minutes and offered similar stats.

Turner, who had the fortune of being an unrestricted free agent that summer, got a $17.5 million per season deal from the Blazers. This summer, Smart, who will be a restricted free agent, might face an environment in which role players could struggle to field outside offers above the $8.8 million midlevel exception, according to multiple league executives.

Smart and Nurkic aren't alone. It's always hard to be a restricted free agent but even unrestricted free agents this summer - players like Avery Bradley, Isaiah Thomas, DeAndre Jordan, Lou Williams and Will Barton - will likely find things dramatically different than just a couple years ago when teams handed out a billion dollars in just 24 hours.

These situations illustrate a fast-changing NBA economic climate that is already showing up as teams dig into trade deadline maneuvers. The bull market that surged in the league in 2016 and 2017 is giving way to a bear market. The league is about to face a cash crunch.

"The trade market is mostly sellers right now," one general manager said. "There's only a few buyers. Looking at everyone's books, I don't think that's going to change much this summer."

Here are a few numbers to explain
Currently, there are five teams slated to pay the luxury tax this season, which means those teams are spending more than $119 million on payroll. Last season, there were two such teams. In the 2015-16 season, there were seven. That's a total of 14 teams over a three-year span.

That was about the same as the previous three-year span: From 2012-13 to 2014-2015, a total of 16 teams paid the tax. Average it out, and roughly five teams per season have been willing to pay the penalty since 2012, which is relevant because that season is when a more penal luxury tax was introduced.

Next season, 12 teams are currently projected to be in luxury tax territory, and another handful could easily get there by re-signing their key free agents. For example, the Milwaukee Bucks aren't currently projected to be in the tax but would cross into the zone if they re-sign free-agent-to-be Jabari Parker.

"Add it all up, and it's a bad year to be a free agent -- or a team looking to reduce salary."

"The luxury tax was not designed for this many teams to pay it," a league executive said. "Many of those owners probably didn't think they'd be paying it. Quite a few of those teams are probably going to take steps to get out of the tax or limit new spending."

This season, teams are paying players a collective $3.13 billion in salaries. But after large jumps in the salary cap the past few years -- from $63 million in 2014-15 to $99 million this season -- the cap is projected only to increase to $101 million next season.

That's $60 million in money added to the cap. That sounds like a lot, but NBA teams already have $3.02 billion committed to players under contract next season. About 18 months ago, the NBA told its teams that the projected the cap for the 2018-19 season was going to be $107 million.

"Picture the spending on salaries as a large tank of water," one GM said. "The last several years, the tank has been getting bigger, and so we've been filling it with more water. But this year the tank is staying about the same size. There's no place for the water to go. There's only so much the owners are going to spend when you have a luxury tax out there."

The players are guaranteed 51 percent of the NBA's basketball-related income each season, so they are guaranteed to get a certain amount of "water," to use that analogy. However, most of that percentage appears to be tied up in players already under contract, so there won't be as much "new" money to go around.

Teams with $10M+ cap space
Atlanta Hawks $21 million
Brooklyn Nets $15 million
Chicago Bulls $24 million
Dallas Mavericks $20 million
Los Angeles Lakers $35 million
Philadelphia 76ers $30 million
Phoenix Suns $17 million

Right now, there are just seven teams expected to have significant cap space next summer. Last year, 10 teams had significant space. In 2016, more than 25 teams had at least $10 million in room. Some of the teams projected for room this summer, such as the Chicago Bulls, might sit out of the free-agent market and instead look for trades. The Bulls already demonstrated their intentions by taking on Omer Asik and the $19 million remaining on contract in return for getting a first-round pick from the New Orleans Pelicans.

Other teams with coming cap space who aren't ready to contend immediately - like the Atlanta Hawks and Phoenix Suns - may be more judicious with their money instead of making big offers to free agents like nearly every team was doing just two years ago. Instead, they may look for trade opportunities and it could depress the free agent market further.

"There are going to be a lot of teams who are looking to move money," a general manager said. "And there aren't many places for it to go. So it will be hard to offload salary, and if you want to, the teams with space will probably charge high prices to take money from your books."

All these factors have executives expecting the midlevel exception to be the primary option for many teams looking to add players. But with half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million.

Add it all up, and it's a bad year to be a free agent -- or a team looking to reduce salary.

When will the situation improve?
"Is it going to be a little bit of a tough period? Yes, but we'll wake up in the summer of 2019 and 2020, when those contracts that were signed in 2016 come off the books, and there will be a lot of money again," longtime NBA agent Mark Bartelstein said.

"I've seen much worse. The cap was trapped between $50 and $60 million for [eight] years. Now the cap is at $100 million, and there's still only 15 players on a team. Things are always changing in the NBA because it's so fluid. Players will understand the risk and reward. NBA free agency is always a competitive marketplace."
 
Hood needs to be dealt. Doesn't matter where at this point, just get something in return for him. We've been on a great run lately, (without him). It's getting harder to trade Favors for his great play lately and for his lack of interest in the trade market. Rubio needs to stay, no need to get rid of him anytime soon, he's playing some great basketball.
 
Jazzman02 said:
Hood needs to be dealt. Doesn't matter where at this point, just get something in return for him. We've been on a great run lately, (without him). It's getting harder to trade Favors for his great play lately and for his lack of interest in the trade market. Rubio needs to stay, no need to get rid of him anytime soon, he's playing some great basketball.
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I disagree. Keep Hood... he may get a much lower offer than anticipated. There is enough noise about FA money drying up its worth the gamble unless someone comes with a good trade.

Replace ABs minutes with Hood and we are better.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I disagree. Keep Hood... he may get a much lower offer than anticipated. There is enough noise about FA money drying up its worth the gamble unless someone comes with a good trade.

Replace ABs minutes with Hood and we are better.
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probably this. But I'd still take a lottery-protected/mid-first round pick in a flash.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I disagree. Keep Hood... he may get a much lower offer than anticipated. There is enough noise about FA money drying up its worth the gamble unless someone comes with a good trade.

Replace ABs minutes with Hood and we are better.
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I would trade Hood if I could find a deal that makes sense, but not just to get rid of him. I agree that they should just keep Favors and Rubio. JJ, Burks and Hood are pieces that could be moved, but ONLY if something better is coming back.
 
NAOS said:
  • Brian Windhorst and Bobby Marks
In July 2016, the Portland Trail Blazers signed restricted free agent Meyers Leonard, their backup center, to a four-year, $41 million contract. It was at the tail end of a surge of large contracts given out that summer, the greatest time in NBA history to be a free agent.

This summer, the Blazers' starting center, Jusuf Nurkic, will be a restricted free agent. He might find it hard to draw an offer from an outside team larger than what his backup is being paid.

ADVERTISEMENT
In the 2015-16 season, the Boston Celtics assembled an impressive 48-34 season behind the play of a collection of gritty perimeter players. Two of them were Evan Turner and Marcus Smart. Turner was a bit more effective as an offensive creator, Smart more of a defensive grinder. But they played similar minutes and offered similar stats.

Turner, who had the fortune of being an unrestricted free agent that summer, got a $17.5 million per season deal from the Blazers. This summer, Smart, who will be a restricted free agent, might face an environment in which role players could struggle to field outside offers above the $8.8 million midlevel exception, according to multiple league executives.

Smart and Nurkic aren't alone. It's always hard to be a restricted free agent but even unrestricted free agents this summer - players like Avery Bradley, Isaiah Thomas, DeAndre Jordan, Lou Williams and Will Barton - will likely find things dramatically different than just a couple years ago when teams handed out a billion dollars in just 24 hours.

These situations illustrate a fast-changing NBA economic climate that is already showing up as teams dig into trade deadline maneuvers. The bull market that surged in the league in 2016 and 2017 is giving way to a bear market. The league is about to face a cash crunch.

"The trade market is mostly sellers right now," one general manager said. "There's only a few buyers. Looking at everyone's books, I don't think that's going to change much this summer."

Here are a few numbers to explain
Currently, there are five teams slated to pay the luxury tax this season, which means those teams are spending more than $119 million on payroll. Last season, there were two such teams. In the 2015-16 season, there were seven. That's a total of 14 teams over a three-year span.

That was about the same as the previous three-year span: From 2012-13 to 2014-2015, a total of 16 teams paid the tax. Average it out, and roughly five teams per season have been willing to pay the penalty since 2012, which is relevant because that season is when a more penal luxury tax was introduced.

Next season, 12 teams are currently projected to be in luxury tax territory, and another handful could easily get there by re-signing their key free agents. For example, the Milwaukee Bucks aren't currently projected to be in the tax but would cross into the zone if they re-sign free-agent-to-be Jabari Parker.

"Add it all up, and it's a bad year to be a free agent -- or a team looking to reduce salary."

"The luxury tax was not designed for this many teams to pay it," a league executive said. "Many of those owners probably didn't think they'd be paying it. Quite a few of those teams are probably going to take steps to get out of the tax or limit new spending."

This season, teams are paying players a collective $3.13 billion in salaries. But after large jumps in the salary cap the past few years -- from $63 million in 2014-15 to $99 million this season -- the cap is projected only to increase to $101 million next season.

That's $60 million in money added to the cap. That sounds like a lot, but NBA teams already have $3.02 billion committed to players under contract next season. About 18 months ago, the NBA told its teams that the projected the cap for the 2018-19 season was going to be $107 million.

"Picture the spending on salaries as a large tank of water," one GM said. "The last several years, the tank has been getting bigger, and so we've been filling it with more water. But this year the tank is staying about the same size. There's no place for the water to go. There's only so much the owners are going to spend when you have a luxury tax out there."

The players are guaranteed 51 percent of the NBA's basketball-related income each season, so they are guaranteed to get a certain amount of "water," to use that analogy. However, most of that percentage appears to be tied up in players already under contract, so there won't be as much "new" money to go around.

Teams with $10M+ cap space
Atlanta Hawks $21 million
Brooklyn Nets $15 million
Chicago Bulls $24 million
Dallas Mavericks $20 million
Los Angeles Lakers $35 million
Philadelphia 76ers $30 million
Phoenix Suns $17 million

Right now, there are just seven teams expected to have significant cap space next summer. Last year, 10 teams had significant space. In 2016, more than 25 teams had at least $10 million in room. Some of the teams projected for room this summer, such as the Chicago Bulls, might sit out of the free-agent market and instead look for trades. The Bulls already demonstrated their intentions by taking on Omer Asik and the $19 million remaining on contract in return for getting a first-round pick from the New Orleans Pelicans.

Other teams with coming cap space who aren't ready to contend immediately - like the Atlanta Hawks and Phoenix Suns - may be more judicious with their money instead of making big offers to free agents like nearly every team was doing just two years ago. Instead, they may look for trade opportunities and it could depress the free agent market further.

"There are going to be a lot of teams who are looking to move money," a general manager said. "And there aren't many places for it to go. So it will be hard to offload salary, and if you want to, the teams with space will probably charge high prices to take money from your books."

All these factors have executives expecting the midlevel exception to be the primary option for many teams looking to add players. But with half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million.

Add it all up, and it's a bad year to be a free agent -- or a team looking to reduce salary.

When will the situation improve?
"Is it going to be a little bit of a tough period? Yes, but we'll wake up in the summer of 2019 and 2020, when those contracts that were signed in 2016 come off the books, and there will be a lot of money again," longtime NBA agent Mark Bartelstein said.

"I've seen much worse. The cap was trapped between $50 and $60 million for [eight] years. Now the cap is at $100 million, and there's still only 15 players on a team. Things are always changing in the NBA because it's so fluid. Players will understand the risk and reward. NBA free agency is always a competitive marketplace."
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A lot of dudes are going to be super salty this off-season.
 
NAOS said:
probably this. But I'd still take a lottery-protected/mid-first round pick in a flash.
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For sure... just trying to squish the narrative that he sucks and we should trade him for next to nothing. First rounder or we keep him end of story.
 
JazzFanz:

We need to trade Favors.
We need to keep Favors and trade Gobert because he’s a better fit.
Nah, we need to trade Favors.
We just need to keep Favors.

I hope the FO is more consistent, but I’m not certain.
 
Jazzman02 said:
Hood needs to be dealt. Doesn't matter where at this point, just get something in return for him. We've been on a great run lately, (without him). It's getting harder to trade Favors for his great play lately and for his lack of interest in the trade market. Rubio needs to stay, no need to get rid of him anytime soon, he's playing some great basketball.
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I agree. Although we might keep Hood at a bargain because there are so few teams who can spend, I don't think our FO wants to spend our money on him.

After reading the article NAOS shared, I think Atlanta needs to be our target. Quote: "Other teams with coming cap space who aren't ready to contend immediately - like the Atlanta Hawks and Phoenix Suns - may be more judicious with their money instead of making big offers to free agents like nearly every team was doing just two years ago. Instead, they may look for trade opportunities and it could depress the free agent market further."

Hood, Burks and our 2nd for Belinelli, Ilyasova and Houston's 2018 1st.

Why for Atlanta - the Houston pick is going to be 28, 29 or 30. Our 2nd will only be about 15 spots behind that and Atlanta doesn't have their 2nd. Hood represents a decent player for their future. If they trade a guy like Bazemore for an asset, they could immediately put the younger and probably cheaper Hood in his place. Burks represents a buy low but potentially medium or higher reward player. Atlanta has plenty of money to pay his contract which expires in 2019.

Why for us - we don't seem to want to keep Hood around for the long term yet we want to keep contending this year. Collectively, Belinelli and Ilyasova are better than Hood and Burks. Both can spread the floor and play positions where we need quality shooting depth. We get to dump Burks' 2018-19 money because Belinelli and Ilyasova are both expirings. Burks money could, ironically enough, be used to retain Favors this summer should we decide to do so.
 
LoPo said:
I agree. Although we might keep Hood at a bargain because there are so few teams who can spend, I don't think our FO wants to spend our money on him.

After reading the article NAOS shared, I think Atlanta needs to be our target. Quote: "Other teams with coming cap space who aren't ready to contend immediately - like the Atlanta Hawks and Phoenix Suns - may be more judicious with their money instead of making big offers to free agents like nearly every team was doing just two years ago. Instead, they may look for trade opportunities and it could depress the free agent market further."

Hood, Burks and our 2nd for Belinelli, Ilyasova and Houston's 2018 1st.

Why for Atlanta - the Houston pick is going to be 28, 29 or 30. Our 2nd will only be about 15 spots behind that. Hood represents a decent player for their future. If they trade a guy like Bazemore for an asset, they could immediately put the younger and probably cheaper Hood in his place. Burks represents a buy low but potentially medium or higher reward player.

Why for us - we don't seem to want to keep Hood around for the long term yet we want to keep contending this year. Collectively, Belinelli and Ilyasova are better than Hood and Burks. Both can spread the floor and play positions where we need quality shooting depth. We get to dump Burks' 2018-19 money because Belinelli and Ilyasova are both expirings. Burks money could, ironically enough, be used to retain Favors this summer should we decide to do so.
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I'd do it.
 
infection said:
JazzFanz:

We need to trade Favors.
We need to keep Favors and trade Gobert because he’s a better fit.
Nah, we need to trade Favors.
We just need to keep Favors.
We need Niko deep inside us. Oh god please.

I hope the FO is more consistent, but I’m not certain.
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