Who should we pick at #5?

[SoberasHotRod]

For the Koncels out there. Why Kon, but not Kas?

@Handlogten's Heros @Bodhi

I think the reason to pick Kon over Kas is that Kas has questions as both an on ball player (turnovers) and off ball player (didn't play off ball) whereas Kon seems like a sure thing as an off ball player with some potential to play on ball as well.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If you're drafting Ace Bailey in the top 5, it's because you believe he's a bonafide shot taker and shot maker, and that he can fit into a team concept smoothly.

Outside of shooting, there is a reasonable chance that Noa Essengue will turn out to be a better overall player than Ace Bailey. Noa's size, fluidity running the floor, ability to get downhill, finish at the rim, and make defensive plays all compare well vs. Ace.

 

[The Midnight]

If you're drafting Ace Bailey in the top 5, it's because you believe he's a bonafide shot taker and shot maker, and that he can fit into a team concept smoothly.

Outside of shooting, there is a reasonable chance that Noa Essengue will turn out to be a better overall player than Ace Bailey. Noa's size, fluidity running the floor, ability to get downhill, finish at the rim, and make defensive plays all compare well vs. Ace.

He’s a tantalising prospect..

 

[fishonjazz]

can someone sum up the Tre Johnson vs VJ Edgecombe for me ? Hearing so many varied opinions

Like the new name bro

 

[KqWIN]

He sucks and his name doesn’t sound like a part of the female anatomy.

For real… ball didn’t go in enough. He kinda fell off. The decision making… and I think he’s a worse defender. I’m fine with Kas but Kon is the ****.

I think the reason to pick Kon over Kas is that Kas has questions as both an on ball player (turnovers) and off ball player (didn't play off ball) whereas Kon seems like a sure thing as an off ball player with some potential to play on ball as well.

These points are definitely heard….but what I’ll say is that there is a ton of optimism for Kon to be able to do thinks that Kas is already doing. HH talked about Tre needing to play more like Kon and vice versa, I think that is also true with Kas/Kon. Physically, they are also fairly similar and capable of the same thing as well.

It’s not a given that Kas will be a good off ball player, and I don’t image he will ever be as good of an off ball player as Kon projects to be…but I still imagine that Kas would be a lot more efficient if he had more opportunities created for him by his teammates. Kas is on the extreme other end where a very large proportion of his offense was self created. And despite being self generated, he was still at 59% TS at the end of the year. Not as efficient as Kon, but I think you get the idea. If these two started playing like each other, that gap in efficiency would diverge.

I’d also say that while Kas has potential to move more towards Kon, that’s just a scenario where the primary handler/offensive hub thing doesn’t work out. It would be a big development, but if Kas were to hit his OTD 3’s and take care of the ball a bit better he’s right there. 6’6, great passer, gets to the basket and FT line, and (theoretically) has an off the dribble 3. So he has potential doing more or less.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Bailey has been slipping in large part because he is 6'7", not 6'10"

he's 6'9 instead of 6'10 and nobody knows if he's slipping.

to be clear, nobody thought he was 6'10" barefoot. his standing reach of 8'11" is elite - like off the charts for a SG/wing. people think his measurements underwhelmed, but when you take everything into account, in shoes measurement, and length measurements (wingspan/standing reach), he killed it. the idea that he's slipping is just people spitballing.

 

[baka98]

I also dont see why San Antone needs Dylan Harper. They should try to trade the #2 for Giannis, Zion, or Lauri.

exactly. he's extremely redundant when you factor in Castle and Fox. Lauri on the Spurs would be sick and we'd get Harper. then we could draft whomever is left at #5. that's my dream scenario.

 

[The Midnight]

Giannis teaching Ace the Giannis ‘shake’ at 7 minute mark


View: https://youtu.be/tXbGfHBRx_8?si=ZYuhKsFhvxdKHtEh

 

[jom2003]

Bailey has been slipping in large part because he is 6'7", not 6'10"

Yeah losing to Tre Johnson in both max verticals is not a good look. Also:

View: https://x.com/DraftExpress/status/1922321082163360178?t=xNE2-d5539kWuQftdGsKoA&s=19


Just been a horrible draft combine so far for Ace. I mean how the hell did you miss nearly half of your wide open midrangers in an open gym. If he's streaky like that not sure he can ever recover from it. Shot looks pure but we've seen enough streaky shooters with the purest jumper who could never figure it out. Take Key for example. Kevin Knox also comes to mind.

 

[jom2003]

If you're drafting Ace Bailey in the top 5, it's because you believe he's a bonafide shot taker and shot maker, and that he can fit into a team concept smoothly.

Outside of shooting, there is a reasonable chance that Noa Essengue will turn out to be a better overall player than Ace Bailey. Noa's size, fluidity running the floor, ability to get downhill, finish at the rim, and make defensive plays all compare well vs. Ace.

I think Ace is the prime candidate to drop comes draft night. I mean a MPJ or even Cam Whitmore type of drop-off.

 

[The Midnight]

Giannis teaching Ace the Giannis ‘shake’ at 7 minute mark


View: https://youtu.be/tXbGfHBRx_8?si=ZYuhKsFhvxdKHtEh

Ace looks too timid to me, doesn't seem to have a lot of fight in him..

I dunno, if he falls to #5 we’re probably compelled to pick him right?

I just dont want another timid guy like Cody or Hendricks on the payroll…

I want someone who’s gonna fight to get better day in day out.