Why does everyone suddenly want to make the playoffs so badly?

[billyshelby]

What's the lesson besides Ronnie Price is better than half the guys on those lists? As I see it, it means the chance of beating the Spurs is probably better than getting a bona fide player at 12 to 14. And this draft is hilariously supposed to be weaker than any year in a decade.

But the bigger lesson is we'll likely be better off adding or acquiring guys through trade and free agency that are already proven in the league.

 

[YB85]

The competitive nature of the sports fan is coming out.

I want the picks too, but it's still hard to lose. When my Bucaneers won a few meaningless games a season ago it cost us a stud in Suh.
Looking back I'd much rather have him for 10+ years, than those 2 wins at the end of the season.

I would rather the Jazz forward the pick this year rather than be thinking in a future (better) draft year, "that guy could be our guy if only they would have made the playoffs in '11".

 

[NCJazz]

Here is the List of Legends at #13:

2010: Ed Davis
2009: Tyler Hansbrough
2008: Brandon Rush
2007: Julian Wright
2006: Thabo
2005: Sean May
2004: Sebastian Telfair
2003: Marcus Banks
2002: Marcus Haislip
2001: Richard Jefferson
2000: Courtney Alexander
1999: Corey Maggette
1998: Keon Clarke
1997: Derek Anderson
1996: Kobe Bryant
1995: Corliss Williamson

Um, there are some pretty good players on this list. Actually probably better than 12. Ed Davis is going to be a very good player. Hansbrough is tearing it up now. You also have Richard Jefferson, Corey Maggette, and some guy named Kobe. Brandon Rush might still be pretty good. What is your argument here?

 

[billyshelby]

Um, there are some pretty good players on this list. Actually probably better than 12. Ed Davis is going to be a very good player. Hansbrough is tearing it up now. You also have Richard Jefferson, Corey Maggette, and some guy named Kobe. Brandon Rush might still be pretty good. What is your argument here?

I'm glad you brought this up. In the case of every list, the youngest players all look promising because they haven't failed or turned into journeymen yet. But they rarely turn out to be anything special. So 5 years ago, people would have been saying that Sean May, Sebastian Telfair, Marcus Haislip, or whoever looked good. Then they vanish.

The other point is compile the list from 12-14 and give me the percentage of guys that really panned out. If you're including ANYBODY from the last 3 years you're already falling into the trap. Those guys are likely on the same trajectory as their brothers at 12-14. The percentage of genuine success is infinitesimally low.

As for Kobe, he cried his way to the 13th pick but that's another story.

 

[billyshelby]

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[Fishsticks]

Um, there are some pretty good players on this list. Actually probably better than 12. Ed Davis is going to be a very good player. Hansbrough is tearing it up now. You also have Richard Jefferson, Corey Maggette, and some guy named Kobe. Brandon Rush might still be pretty good. What is your argument here?

Thanks for nailing this. Ihave no idea what his point has been since he began these rants. More than half the players have been or will be very good role players at worst. His argument is fail x 1000000

 

[Fishsticks]

Btw billybob, a guy is not a bust if he gets injured. A lot of guys on these lists faced injury.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Thanks for nailing this. Ihave no idea what his point has been since he began these rants. More than half the players have been or will be very good role players at worst. His argument is fail x 1000000

He listed forty-eight players (48). I estimate four of them have been impact players. Injury or not, the fact is 8.25% is not a good percentage to bank on.

And more than half are or will be very good role players? What's your definition of very good role player? Brewer? He's a decent role player. You'd want to tank the season for Ronnie Brewer? Let's ask that question. Jazz have two options: make the playoffs, or sign Ronnie Brewer. Which do you take?

 

[fallenchicken]

And you guys forget: Depending on the new CBA the Jazz will have cap space and Trade assets. And if you guys want to keep Evans, we don't have room for another pick.

 

[AKistheFEARFACTOR]

i want our young guns to get some playoff experience. not much a diff between the 14th and 16th pick. NJN is where its at, especially if DWill out for rest of year.

 

[NotDeadYet]

I would love for the Jazz to win a bunch of games to end the season on a high note, but the only way we can make the playoffs is if at least ONE currently slotted playoff team loses several games AND teams right behind us (Houston & Phoenix) also lose several games. The odds are realistically not in our favor...
As far as us not having room on our roster for a 2nd draft pick this summer, we have Kirilenko, Miles, Price, Fesenko, Elson and Watson all with expiring contracts this summer. Plenty of opportunity to retool the roster if the Jazz choose to... I'd say Watson and Miles are wanted back by the Jazz, and Kirilenko if the $$$ are right...

 

[gregbroncs]

i want our young guns to get some playoff experience. not much a diff between the 14th and 16th pick. NJN is where its at, especially if DWill out for rest of year.

If we make the playoffs we won't get our own pick. It was traded but lottery protected.