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Rubio traded to Jazz

BabyPeterzz said:
Gotta be another move. How are going to score? Jingles ain't puttin up 20.
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T wolves scored just fine. I don't think they had anyone as good at scoring as Hayward.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Also, the Jazz slowing the game down to a crawl (a strategy that I increasingly love) worked as well as it did (and would have room to improve) specifically because the ball didn't stick and there was so much spacing.

Rubio doesn't help with either of those things. And he isn't a scorer.
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Someone posted some usage stats on rubio and hood usage was very low compared to others (I think, but am not certain, that they compared his usage to george hill and rubio usage was lower than his even)
Ball ain't gonna stick with rubio. Quite the contrary.
 
- our team's pace isn't something that Quin does just because-- he does it because it's the offence that best reflected our personnel. As personnel shift, our offence will as well. Complaints about how Rubio will fit are hysterical-- pass-first pgs fit in every offence, especially ones who are as quick to screen and play D
- I want to emphasize Rubio's ability to screen-assist-- more fuel to the Juan Stockton (personally my favourite nickname) fire
- I am very, very, VERY happy that we have moved on from George Hill. Like, insanely happy. This trade was a ****ing coup and we didn't give up really good up-and-comers just to retain a free agent.

Compare this to what Presti did with Ibaka, Perkins, & Harden. Dennis Lindsey is a ****ing G.


Very excited to watch Rubio on this jazz team. We'll win over 50 games again if Hayward comes back, and we'll still make the playoffs if he doesn't.
 
I'm nowhere in the least comparing a hof legend to Rubio, but Stockton was never known for his scoring, he was legendary for getting others involved and being a floor general. Rubio brings a similar aspect, again hes no Stock, but he brings a poor man's Stock game.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I'm nowhere in the least comparing a hof legend to Rubio, but Stockton was never known for his scoring, he was legendary for getting others involved and being a floor general. Rubio brings a similar aspect, again hes no Stock, but he brings a poor man's Stock game.
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He was one of the most efficient scorers the position has ever seen. He took few shots but was a tremendous shooter and made every shot count.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Rubio shot 30% from 3's last year.



So... it's not like he's completely useless from there, right?
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No, and he also has good mechanics so its not a far cry to think he could improve. He also has never had players like Hayward and Ingles that can actually set him up for good shots in the NBA. He did shoot slightly better in catch and shoot situations 32.7%. That is the number that hopefully improves.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Rubio shot 30% from 3's last year.



So... it's not like he's completely useless from there, right?
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That's pretty useless as far as three point shooting goes.
 
Why are we talking about an 8-year NBA veteran like they're a prospect to develop? I get that the Jazz do great work with veterans, but players just up and becoming shooters at year 9 basically never happens.

If he really shot 32.7% on catch-and-shoot 3s then I really, really don't like this trade.
 
Rubio generates points ,the #1 concern for the Jazz ....F%%K this ranting about he's a terrible shooter ....he manufactures points and Jazz need points against the real high scoring teams.
Rubio was shooting near 90% from the FT's and he's only 26 yrs old entering his prime yrs.It's not saying he's going to lead the league in 3 pt% but with the Jazz I think he'll get better.This doom and gloom on Jazz players weaknesses is so boring to always read here.
 
Why are we talking about an 8-year NBA veteran like they're a prospect to develop? I get that the Jazz do great work with veterans, but players just up and becoming shooters at year 9 basically never happens.
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26 yr old players just entering their prime can AND do get better .....no body expects Rubio to lead the league but anyone who thinks Rubio willl be a drag and hindrance to the Jazz offense doesn't know a thing about basketball.
I don't want to see the Jazz play great defense against Houston,San Antonio,Golden State ONLY to lose 90 to 80 because they can't score enough points!
 
NUMBERICA said:
Why are we talking about an 8-year NBA veteran like they're a prospect to develop? I get that the Jazz do great work with veterans, but players just up and becoming shooters at year 9 basically never happens.

If he really shot 32.7% on catch-and-shoot 3s then I really, really don't like this trade.
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Players get better all the time at that age and at shooting. 26 years old is not a peak. Besides shooting is a skill not an athletic ability. Players focus on specific skills all the time and improve at them. There are plenty of examples of players who became better shooters late in their career. Besides he is working with a new team and a new coaching staff that might do things differently with him.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Why are we talking about an 8-year NBA veteran like they're a prospect to develop? I get that the Jazz do great work with veterans, but players just up and becoming shooters at year 9 basically never happens.

If he really shot 32.7% on catch-and-shoot 3s then I really, really don't like this trade.
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Rubio is above 83% career FT shooter and is coming off a season where he shot 89% from the FT line. I think there is some reason to believe he can eventually figure out open spot up shooting.
 
from Gordon Hayward's 6th to 7th year in the league his TS% went from 56% to 60%. If Rubio makes a similar leap from his 6th to 7th year, he'd be sitting at 58% would would have been Hayward's career high prior to last year. and just barely behind where Hayward was at last year. the point being, 6 years into the league, dudes can still make significant leaps in their shooting.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Why are we talking about an 8-year NBA veteran like they're a prospect to develop? I get that the Jazz do great work with veterans, but players just up and becoming shooters at year 9 basically never happens.

If he really shot 32.7% on catch-and-shoot 3s then I really, really don't like this trade.
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I'm not certain but I think Jason kidd made a big improvement in his 3 point shooting later in his career.
 
fishonjazz said:
I'm not certain but I think Jason kidd made a big improvement in his 3 point shooting later in his career.
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He became way more consistent, but he had shown really good 3pt shooting ability sporadically year to year throughout his career.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I'm nowhere in the least comparing a hof legend to Rubio, but Stockton was never known for his scoring, he was legendary for getting others involved and being a floor general. Rubio brings a similar aspect, again hes no Stock, but he brings a poor man's Stock game.
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U must not be old enough to have watched Stockton play? Tell me if I'm wrong. He was a dead eye from three and midrange and even though he was 6-1 he was probably as good at finishing at the rim as IT for Boston. He just preferred to set up his teamates, but when the jazz needed him to he would often openly look to score and take over a game that way. Just watch the last 5 or so minutes of the "Stockton sends the Utah jazz to the NBA finals" game. He took over that game on offense. He could've been a 20pt+ scorer for his career if he had wanted to.
 
As far as asset management goes, this trade was gold. Essentially, Enes Kanter and Taurean Prince for GH and RR.
 
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