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SalmonHobo said:
Brees is 6'0". Vick is 6'0". McNabb is 6'2". Yes, it's a hardly a must. I'm not saying it's not important. It is very much so. I'd have trouble drafting a qb who's less than 6'2" or 6'3", minimally. But again, it's not a must. It's not some absolute for success.
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It's hardly "not" a must. Yeah, there's a few guys that aren't taller than 6'2"ish that are successful starters, but they're few and far between. Being tall is as must as you can get to see over the line and throw down field.
 
Archie Moses said:
It's hardly "not" a must. Yeah, there's a few guys that aren't taller than 6'2"ish that are successful starters, but they're few and far between. Being tall is as must as you can get to see over the line and throw down field.
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You obviously don't know the definition of must. Guy.
 
Height is probably more important for a QB than any other position. With linemen, being too tall can hurt your leverage. With being a running back, being too tall can hurt your leverage and make you a bigger target. With receivers/corners/backfielders, it's likely going to impact your agility at a certain point.

With QBs, height provides a huge advantage in terms of vision with lesser such side effect as the other positions. Being able to dodge/weather tackles is nice, but the first thing a QB needs to do is make reads and it's a lot harder to do that if you can't see.

Also, if you're not going to be able to have ideal vision, then you'd better have some ****ing legs (Vick, McNabb). Brees really is an anomaly.

Luck, however, looks like something between Ben Roethlisdfa;oaisdf and Vick with making plays with his feet, but with the pure QB-ing ability of the elite. You take that and run.
 
I'm not saying height isn't an advantage. I was just saying it isn't a neseccary requirement. If I thought someone like Kellen Moore was a good QB, I would take him even though he is only 6' tall.
 
I think Moore has really nice instincts and knowledge. He will have more experience than any of his counterparts as well. While he has played on a high-level program and played well throughout, you have to be a little concerned with what I would deem to be a lack of pressure he's had to play under in terms of quantity and quality. For every Georgia or Oregon game he's played, that goes with 4 games against New Mexico St and Utah St. You have to have concerns he might not be able to handle the quantum leap in pressure he'd face in the NFL, but some team will be willing to find out.

And Mark Sanchez isn't a bad QB, but he isn't great either. His team plays a really old-school brand of offense that is built on the run game (when they're at their best) and he does play-action well. They could afford another guy to look at, though.
 
Moore is also pretty slightly built, 191 lbs. I wasn't just talking about height. And he's not an elite scrambler either.
 
Brown Notes said:
Moore is also pretty slightly built, 191 lbs. I wasn't just talking about height. And he's not an elite scrambler either.
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Just have to make sure you have good pass protection I guess. That is an actual must to have a good passing attack.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Just have to make sure you have good pass protection I guess. That is an actual must to have a good passing attack.
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In the NFL it is really rare to have a lot of plays in which the QB simply drops back and scans the field. They need to be able to move and they need to be able to take a hit. Moore doesn't have escapability and is so little it'd be like me tackling my wife. He will get smushed in the pro's.
 
Brown Notes said:
In the NFL it is really rare to have a lot of plays in which the QB simply drops back and scans the field. They need to be able to move and they need to be able to take a hit. Moore doesn't have escapability and is so little it'd be like me tackling my wife. He will get smushed in the pro's.
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It's not that rare at all. There are plenty of NFL QB's who don't scramble (or only do so if absolutely necessary).
 
Brown Notes said:
In the NFL it is really rare to have a lot of plays in which the QB simply drops back and scans the field. They need to be able to move and they need to be able to take a hit. Moore doesn't have escapability and is so little it'd be like me tackling my wife. He will get smushed in the pro's.
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Peyton Manning does exactly that on every pass attempt. I don't think that guy has ever had positive yard rushing attempt in his career.
 
Hey Catratcho, normally I'd be getting pumped up for this Monday night meeting but I'll be honest the way the season has started and the injuries and the bye week, this season is already starting to lose it's luster.
I know your team has had much higher expectations and is a Romo melt down away from being 1-4, so hows your attitude towards your team. I know it's gotta be higher then mine but still pretty disappointed I'd imagine.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
It's not that rare at all. There are plenty of NFL QB's who don't scramble (or only do so if absolutely necessary).
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You are missing the point, or I wasn't clear. In order to avoid an NFL rush the QB has to either have elite skills reading the D pre snap and get his protections set up properly (Manning) or have the slipperiness to buy himself some more time (Roethlesburger). It's not about running for positive yards. Moore is going to get his *** handed to him while he learns to read NFL defenses(assuming he ever does), just like Manning did. Because he's so little the odds of him surviving the process are lower than a bigger guy.

That's why he's not a 1st round prospect, along with the height thing. I kind of doubt he's 6'1". Give Moore 30 lbs and 4 inches and he's a #1.
 
Oh, and for the poster who wanted info on Greg Little for his fantasy team, Little is now officially the Brown's #1 WR. He will be getting a lot more targets from here on out.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
Hey Catratcho, normally I'd be getting pumped up for this Monday night meeting but I'll be honest the way the season has started and the injuries and the bye week, this season is already starting to lose it's luster.
I know your team has had much higher expectations and is a Romo melt down away from being 1-4, so hows your attitude towards your team. I know it's gotta be higher then mine but still pretty disappointed I'd imagine.
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My excitement level was sky high...for two weeks. The next two weeks it was considerably lower. After last weekend's loss to NE, the feelings have improved, since we played them pretty well. I am extremely disappointed in the defense thus far. I keep telling myself the Jets are a stronger team in the second half of the season and entering the playoffs.
 
Brown Notes said:
Oh, and for the poster who wanted info on Greg Little for his fantasy team, Little is now officially the Brown's #1 WR. He will be getting a lot more targets from here on out.
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I dropped him a couple of weeks ago for Victor Cruz.

If Colt McCoy would attempt to pass the ball more than 4 yards once in a while I'd be inclined to pick him back up.
 
catratcho said:
I keep telling myself the Jets are a stronger team in the second half of the season and entering the playoffs.
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I was checking out the schedule and I noticed later on this season The Jets play New England at home on a Sunday night and then have to travel to Denver for a Thursday game.

With the travel day the Jets essentially get two days off before their next game. That sucks.
 
candrew said:
I was checking out the schedule and I noticed later on this season The Jets play New England at home on a Sunday night and then have to travel to Denver for a Thursday game.

With the travel day the Jets essentially get two days off before their next game. That sucks.
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Good thing the Broncos suck, especially if they trade Brandon Lloyd.
 
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