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KqWIN said:
If I had to rank the indicators, I'd go:

1) Statistical indicators (doing the things that size/athleticism are supposed to do)
2) Film and how they "look"



3) Testing numbers
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FWIW, I do think it's worth revisiting film/statistical indicators when the testing numbers come back different than expected. I think sometimes players get labeled as athletic/unathletic and we review the film/data with that bias. If the testing numbers tell a different story it's probably worth reviewing everything with a fresh set of eyes.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Was reading up on Fears. One scout comped him to Monte Ellis. Is that a fair comp?
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Jeremiah Fears: NBA draft scouting report and intel

2006 | 6’4 | 6’4 WS | 182 LBS Team: Oklahoma Agent: Lift Best aggregate mock draft rank: 7 / Worst rank: 12 2024-25 stats: In 2024-25, Fears averaged 17.1 points, 4.1 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 0.1 blo…
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There's no real good comparisons. His tools are abysmal other than his body control, but his body control is historically elite. He can change direction in ways that are so strange that defenders basically can never predict it. Kind of like SGA if SGA was... Really really tiny.
 
Tre came in with a standing reach .5" shorter than Kon. They are within a quarter inch of each other and Tre had like 4 inches on wingspan. So take an inch or two off that vert.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Was reading up on Fears. One scout comped him to Monte Ellis. Is that a fair comp?
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Jeremiah Fears: NBA draft scouting report and intel

2006 | 6’4 | 6’4 WS | 182 LBS Team: Oklahoma Agent: Lift Best aggregate mock draft rank: 7 / Worst rank: 12 2024-25 stats: In 2024-25, Fears averaged 17.1 points, 4.1 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 0.1 blo…
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Fears doesn't have Monta Ellis' above-the-rim athleticism. They might be similar in terms of craftiness off the dribble. In terms of athleticism, Fears is more like a young Lillard.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
FWIW, I do think it's worth revisiting film/statistical indicators when the testing numbers come back different than expected. I think sometimes players get labeled as athletic/unathletic and we review the film/data with that bias. If the testing numbers tell a different story it's probably worth reviewing everything with a fresh set of eyes.
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Think this makes some sense. Off the top of your head, do you remember an instance where this was especially valuable?

I think this may come in handy when one of the first two disagree with each other. I don't know if this is the case, but let's just say that Danny Wolf had great combine numbers. Maybe that would help confirm that he's actually a good athlete (which shows on paper but maybe not on film?).
 
KqWIN said:
Think this makes some sense. Off the top of your head, do you remember an instance where this was especially valuable?

I think this may come in handy when one of the first two disagree with each other. I don't know if this is the case, but let's just say that Danny Wolf had great combine numbers. Maybe that would help confirm that he's actually a good athlete (which shows on paper but maybe not on film?).
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Not off the top of my head, I've only really followed the draft this closely for 3 years now.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Fears doesn't have Monta Ellis' above-the-rim athleticism. They might be similar in terms of craftiness off the dribble. In terms of athleticism, Fears is more like a young Lillard.
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Lillard could shoot though. And they did compare his Craftiness to Ellis and made reference to him not being an above the rim dude but still having a great fg% at the rim
 
I'm not sure if these numbers are correct, but somehow CMB made 22/30 pull up 3's, but only 7/30 spot up 3's? Chaz Lanier was the opposite he made 2/30 pull up 3s and 18/25 spot 3s. Dylan Harper only made 6/10 free throws?

They are obviously still in the process of testing, so I'm not sure if there are any errors here.

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