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Game Thread: Denver Nuggets @ Utah, Monday, November 11, 7:00 pm MST

mhindy said:
This is my main takeaway. There is nobody who can consistently help. If all 4 are on at once, we have a good chance to win but if even one of them falters a bit there is nobody to pick up the slack.

We don't have a single really complementary player and none of our best 4 are good enough to even semi-regularly take over a game. Still, I think we could actually be a decent team next year if we add Wiggins or Parker and a couple of role players.
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Good post
 
mhindy said:
This is my main takeaway. There is nobody who can consistently help. If all 4 are on at once, we have a good chance to win but if even one of them falters a bit there is nobody to pick up the slack.

We don't have a single really complementary player and none of our best 4 are good enough to even semi-regularly take over a game. Still, I think we could actually be a decent team next year if we add Wiggins or Parker and a couple of role players.
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With the 4 and Marv plus Burke, we might be competitive soon, but still be a pretty terrible team. Gobert is so raw, that he doesn't really help the team at all right now, aside from being a blast to watch. All the other guys just plain suck.

We could be good next year, but we will probably take at least until 2016 to be contenders.
 
b_line said:
The weird thing about Marv not being able to defend PF's is that he is a big dude, and pretty light on his feet. One would think that would translate. That is the mystery that is Marv though.
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Well, Faried is a tough cover. He's a Manimal after all.
 
Core4 said:
WEll, then we obviously need to trade Hayward, Kanter or Favors for him according to some posters on this board who give credence to +/- stats.
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Just because you don't understand the stat and others misuse it doesn't mean it's of no value.
 
mhindy said:
This is my main takeaway. There is nobody who can consistently help. If all 4 are on at once, we have a good chance to win but if even one of them falters a bit there is nobody to pick up the slack.

We don't have a single really complementary player and none of our best 4 are good enough to even semi-regularly take over a game. Still, I think we could actually be a decent team next year if we add Wiggins or Parker and a couple of role players.
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Even if the Jazz's young 4 all play well, I don't think they have a chance to win. No matter what the young 4 do, they're going to get outplayed at the PG spot and off the bench by 15+ pts. I think they know this, and that's why you see guys like Kanter and Favors only bring it on certain nights.
 
candrew said:
The last 5 minutes or so of the 3rd quarter Favors had a look in his eyes. He was calling for the ball, playing like a beast on both ends, great body language - you can see the confidence being injected back into him. And for his efforts, he's benched the first 4 minutes of the 4th quarter. For ****'s sake Corbin forget about your rotations for a second and ride the hot hand you robot - what do you have to lose?
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I did see that Favors looked awesome then. He was kind of directing the team, wanting them to play harder on both sides. I liked that Favors.
 
You can't ask Favors and Hayward to put up bigger numbers than they did, given the attention they're getting from the defense. Kanter coasted a bit and Burks didn't shoot that well, but the Jazz still lost by 19 points to a depleted team.

Kanter + Favors + Hayward scored 55 pts. and shot just over 50%. That's an avg. of 18.3 pts per player with 50% shooting.

The rest of the team combined scored 26 pts. on 25% shooting (9/36).

Guess who's going to get trapped and double-teamed all night. Beating the Jazz is a cake walk.
 
GVC said:
Just because you don't understand the stat and others misuse it doesn't mean it's of no value.
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I don't believe that anyone doesn't know what that stat means
 
candrew said:
The last 5 minutes or so of the 3rd quarter Favors had a look in his eyes. He was calling for the ball, playing like a beast on both ends, great body language - you can see the confidence being injected back into him. And for his efforts, he's benched the first 4 minutes of the 4th quarter. For ****'s sake Corbin forget about your rotations for a second and ride the hot hand you robot - what do you have to lose?
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There hasn't been a better post in the last three years. Corbin sucks. I gave him a fresh start this year, and he's already spent all my patience. There's no margin for error with this squad, and when he burns thru that margin it infuriates me.
 
I think the Jazz will get their first win when either a) Trey Burke comes back and starts chipping in 15 pts. and 9 assits, or b) when Kanter goes off for 38 points.

Short of that, I don't see how it's empirically possible for the Jazz to win games.
 
Catchall said:
This team has just been gutted by the front office.

No floor spacers. No PG depth. No bench.

The young guys are completely on their own.
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Chad Ford defines the "Status: Tanking" as follows...

Tanking: The team's front office has deliberately weakened the team in an attempt to lose as many games as possible.
 
mhindy said:
I was thinking about this - until Burke comes back I feel like you could make quite a profit betting heavily against the Jazz every night.
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the odds makers will never see that coming against an 0-8 team...
 
HighlandHomie said:
I just started from the beginning. I'm in the 2nd episode of the 2nd season (the prequel season). Season finale of season 1 made my face melt.
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It was one of the best finales. I think Andy Whitfield(rip) Spartacus was better than the new one and John Hannah's character (Batiatus) was my favourite but im sure you will like the other seasons too.
 
AKMVP said:
Chad Ford defines the "Status: Tanking" as follows...

Tanking: The team's front office has deliberately weakened the team in an attempt to lose as many games as possible.
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True. If this were just about "evaluating our young talent," the front office would have kept some bench production and enough quality depth to keep us in games.
 
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