Aaron Gordon, a No. 5 Pick?

[da ThRONe]

Name one championship team in the last 40 years that didn't have AT LEAST one of those guys without mentioning the 2004 Pistons (who still had a few guys that would be first options on bad teams).

Name me how many of those guys exist at a championship level. Then tell me which ones are lining up to play in Salt Lake. You work with what you have. Fans are far too invested in titles. As a fan base it's great to have but it's only one fans base out of 30 every year. You want a team that can compete for titles and if they can pull through and win one or more with that core that icing on the cake.

 

[The Thriller]

I wrote off Smart weeks ago. Thanks alot! He's a bit of a chucker without a shot. Using my own logic based on the quote, I'll need to reconsider. While I like Gordon's ceiling, he is a few years away to being an contributor. The point you made about Smart being an upgrade even with no shot, is an important one. He can contribute more this season than any other pick at 5. That's important to a new rookie coach of a lottery team in a loaded division, who is aware of his coaching mortality. Early contribution may swing the pick to Smart.

If Gordon is years away from being a contributor then DL might as well pack his bags and head out of town... Or draft someone else.

If the Jazz for 2+ years maintain this WC doormat level of play then peoples' heads will and should roll.

In fact, I would say any projects right now should be ruled out. This #5 draft pick needs to be an IMMEDIATE contributor and building block for playoff teams. Otherwise, we need to look for another prospect or concede that DL just isn't the right guy for the job.

If I'm DL and I'm feeling pressure to improve right now, I go with the player who brings the most immediate relief.

 

[The Thriller]

At least at this point, Smart and Randle have been that before. But a point I'm trying to get at is that the Jazz should try really hard to move up. The sanctimonious turds that are married to nice scraps and wouldn't give any up to get a bona fide #1 option are hopefully not in the front office, although I don't know why anyone in the top-3 would trade out. There's chatter about someone slipping out of the consensus top-3 because sometimes teams out-think themselves and fall in love with players below the consensus. If that's the case - for example, if Philly wants Exum and want a return on where they sit - maybe they'll make a deal to get the player they want and more in order to make it happen.

I'm holding onto hope that the Jazz get one of those three guys and I don't know why. But of everyone in play in the top-10, TODAY, Aaron Gordon is literally at the bottom of the list of players that you could build an offense around and the Jazz need one badly. And with all of this talk of him becoming a player that he simply isn't close to being, well, **** in one hand in wish in the other and see what fills up first.

Amen and amen

 

[The Thriller]

Hayward and Gordon have very complementary games. I want to see those two play together. Two great basketball minds on the court is far better than one.

Oh hell no.

Plug in Favors... Oh my hell...

Would we ever score? We're literally playing 2 on 5.

Did we learn nothing from the Kiri/Brew experiment?

I really think this new generation of jazz fan has forgotten what a good offense looks like. I think we've forgotten what it takes to score in this league.

Hayward, Favors, and Gordon are essentially non-factors offensively. Burke is inconsistent.

So if we rolled with a starting 5 of

Burke
Hayward
Gordon
Kanter
Favors

You're looking at kanter being your #1 option and relying on him heavily to score 25+ per game.

That starting lineup with bench guys like... Garrett, Gobert Report, and (pissed off And demanding to be traded) Burks is good enough for maybe 12-15 wins next year.

Is that what we really want?

 

[Twin Towers]

You know one of his greatest strengths is his ball handling skills right?

There is dribbling then there is shooting off the dribble. If you watch the scouting report he is pretty horrible at it.

He can dribble and slash and put up a floater. but dribbling and pulling up to shoot looks very awkward.

 

[bjunior]

Oh hell no.

Plug in Favors... Oh my hell...

Would we ever score? We're literally playing 2 on 5.

Did we learn nothing from the Kiri/Brew experiment?

I really think this new generation of jazz fan has forgotten what a good offense looks like. I think we've forgotten what it takes to score in this league.

Hayward, Favors, and Gordon are essentially non-factors offensively. Burke is inconsistent.

So if we rolled with a starting 5 of

Burke
Hayward
Gordon
Kanter
Favors

You're looking at kanter being your #1 option and relying on him heavily to score 25+ per game.

That starting lineup with guys like... Garrett, Gobert Report, and (pissed off And demanding to be traded) Burks is good enough for maybe 12-15 wins next year.

Is that what we really want?

say it bro, say that you want cj miles back

 

[Coach Ellis]

Jazz gonna match. Hayward has a great basketball IQ and will improve under Snyder's tutelage. His shot will return to second year accuracy. Should be an 18/6/6 player in his prime, you just don't let that walk, especially with only 27 million on the books next year.

Great post. Repped.

 

[Jazz4ever]

If Gordon is years away from being a contributor then DL might as well pack his bags and head out of town... Or draft someone else.

If the Jazz for 2+ years maintain this WC doormat level of play then peoples' heads will and should roll.

In fact, I would say any projects right now should be ruled out. This #5 draft pick needs to be an IMMEDIATE contributor and building block for playoff teams. Otherwise, we need to look for another prospect or concede that DL just isn't the right guy for the job.

If I'm DL and I'm feeling pressure to improve right now, I go with the player who brings the most immediate relief.

Hard to draft a player that is not a project in todays day and age. Anyone with the slightest potential are one and done'rs. Mcdermott and Stauskas would give the Jazz the most immediate bang for the buck but have lower ceilings than the project guys. That said, I'm not completely opposed to trading down for them if we get a good return.

 

[da ThRONe]

If Gordon is years away from being a contributor then DL might as well pack his bags and head out of town... Or draft someone else.

If the Jazz for 2+ years maintain this WC doormat level of play then peoples' heads will and should roll.

In fact, I would say any projects right now should be ruled out. This #5 draft pick needs to be an IMMEDIATE contributor and building block for playoff teams. Otherwise, we need to look for another prospect or concede that DL just isn't the right guy for the job.

If I'm DL and I'm feeling pressure to improve right now, I go with the player who brings the most immediate relief.

This is just year two of the rebuild for you guys. Man you have absolutely no patience.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Name me how many of those guys exist at a championship level. Then tell me which ones are lining up to play in Salt Lake.

I'm confused, do you think that the draft is free agency? Because it's not.

 

[da ThRONe]

I'm confused, do you think that the draft is free agency? Because it's not.

Your team is drafting 5th this year. If it's a "four player draft" then where do you get that guy? So if you don't have access to that guy why the objections to taking another key piece?

 

[spycam1]

If Gordon is years away from being a contributor then DL might as well pack his bags and head out of town... Or draft someone else.

If the Jazz for 2+ years maintain this WC doormat level of play then peoples' heads will and should roll.

In fact, I would say any projects right now should be ruled out. This #5 draft pick needs to be an IMMEDIATE contributor and building block for playoff teams. Otherwise, we need to look for another prospect or concede that DL just isn't the right guy for the job.

If I'm DL and I'm feeling pressure to improve right now, I go with the player who brings the most immediate relief.

I think Smart will definitely have the biggest immediate impact of the guys we could have at #5.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Your team is drafting 5th this year. If it's a "four player draft" then where do you get that guy?

If it's a four player draft and I'm drafting fifth, I don't draft the tenth best player (at least in terms of what I'm looking for).

So if you don't have access to that guy why the objections to taking another key piece?

When did Gordon become the obvious fifth-best prospect in this draft? How is an athletic tweener that isn't good at basketball a key piece?

 

[NUMBERICA]

I think Smart will definitely have the biggest immediate impact of the guys we could have at #5.

I think you're right. And I don't love Smart.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Honest question, besides age/upside, what would we be getting out of Aaron Gordon that we don't get out of Jeremy Evans? Again, not considering that Aaron Gordon might get better.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I think Smart will definitely have the biggest immediate impact of the guys we could have at #5.

True, but this is a slippery slope to get caught in. Think Tyreke Evans, or Emeka Okafor.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Honest question, besides age/upside, what would we be getting out of Aaron Gordon that we don't get out of Jeremy Evans? Again, not considering that Aaron Gordon might get better.

Evans cannot move laterally like Gordon can and at 200 lbs gets pushed around even at SF. Gordon is light but at least 225. Evans cannot dribble to save his life, Gordon is a little overrated here but have seen him take it coast to coast after a rebound.

 

[8]

Eh, it's not liek Tyreke Evans is the worst player on teh planet.

I also think Smart will have the most immediate impact, but I don't like him personally or his long-term outlook. Just bring in Deandre Kane fro some of that Smart-esque immediate impact imabbpo

 

[NUMBERICA]

Evans cannot move laterally like Gordon can and at 200 lbs gets pushed around even at SF. Gordon is light but at least 225. Evans cannot dribble to save his life, Gordon is a little overrated here but have seen him take it coast to coast after a rebound.

I've seen Evans do that before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueEYhkWNRVI

 

[Doublea]

Honest question, besides age/upside, what would we be getting out of Aaron Gordon that we don't get out of Jeremy Evans? Again, not considering that Aaron Gordon might get better.

Here's a little Aaron Gordon info.

About his workout with the Jazz: https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/...h-nba.html.csp

I like the kids personality and poise. Sounds like he's a gym rat and will get better. https://www.nba.com/jazz/aaron-gordon-pre-draft-workout-6.7.14

I really like the Handles he shows in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj4OFtvFcYY