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Jazz players at the World Cup

Doublea said:
Next tweet said it was because Hayward asked about his status on the team after not being played. Sounds like he was kind of pissed and just wanted to know.
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Good for Hayward. He shouldn't have just sat around and did nothing.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
I would be upset if I was Hayward too. He put in a lot of time with the team that took away from other things he could have been doing. Once games roll around, everyone should at least get a chance to prove themselves. He didn't get a fair shake.

The biggest thing that bothers me is the whole Rudy Gay thing. If they really thought Rudy was a better fit for the national team why wasn't he invited originally over Hayward??? To me that is a sign that Hayward literally had a 0% chance of making the final cut. If injuries/withdraws don't improve your chances of making the team it means he wasn't considered a finalist from the beginning.

Also, Rudy Gay and Demarcus Cousins are both representing our country???!!!!!!! Is Coach K insane?
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Is it possible Hayward was invited and Rudy initially wasn't based on rep but that once they were both there playing, it was clear Rudy was far better and that Hayward's rep as such a strong overall player and Rudy's as such a selfish (?) one were overstated?
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Is it possible Hayward was invited and Rudy initially wasn't based on rep but that once they were both there playing, it was clear Rudy was far better and that Hayward's rep as such a strong overall player and Rudy's as such a selfish (?) one were overstated?
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I doubt it. They are just two different types of players and the type of player Gordon is not as needed as the type of player Gay is. They needed a 3/4 who can create for himself and score, simply because the team lost two of the best players that could do that in Durant and Paul George. They needed consumers, not facilitators, or at least not from that 3/4 position.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Is it possible Hayward was invited and Rudy initially wasn't based on rep but that once they were both there playing, it was clear Rudy was far better and that Hayward's rep as such a strong overall player and Rudy's as such a selfish (?) one were overstated?
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This is speculation, but my guess would be Rudy declined initially knowing he probably wouldn't make the team. When Durant and George went down, he received a wink and nod from coach K he would make the team if he wanted it. Gay instantly got minutes the first game while Hayward received a DNP. So yeah...the whole thing stinks.
 
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So everyone is saying that usa roster sucks, thier offense sucks, they don't pass, they cut the wrong players, Hayward got screwed, coach K sucks, etc etc.

I have not watched any games but aren't they scoring tons of points every game, winning by like 40 pts each game, and dominating thier opponents?

Reading this thread I would think that the usa is struggling to score and getting beat every game.
 
It surprised me more that Hayward got invited to try out for team USA more
then him getting cut. I think he was ranked 90+ in the league before his struggles last season. He shot the ball terrible last year and did not show any improvements that I seen. He seems to play passively and without confidence. He is probably the worst shooting wing on the team and he is just an average defender. Other players on the team can rebound and and pass the ball if needed. I just didn't see a place for him on the team. Without an elite ability your just an average or slightly better than average player in the league at the most. I hope Hayward has a good season and I'm sure he will shoot better from 3pt range this year but I just don't think he did anything special to deserve a spot on the team.


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fishonjazz said:
So everyone is saying that usa roster sucks, thier offense sucks, they don't pass, they cut the wrong players, Hayward got screwed, coach K sucks, etc etc.

I have not watched any games but aren't they scoring tons of points every game, winning by like 40 pts each game, and dominating thier opponents?

Reading this thread I would think that the usa is struggling to score and getting beat every game.
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Brazil was the only real competition for the team. DR and PR should have been blown out by more.
 
orangello said:
Brazil was the only real competition for the team. DR and PR should have been blown out by more.
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I see.
so our j.v. team (no lebron, kobe, wade, cp3, love, griffin, george, durant, etc etc) blowing other countries team out (the rest of the world had gotten much better in the last 20 years btw) equals usa coach, offense, and roster all suck. Ok, that makes alot of sense.

Im sure if coach K would only play hayward, korver, and parsons 30 minutes per game and let hayward install a passing offense with his amazing all around game then we would average 170 pts per game and would be beating teams by 80 pts per game right?
 
I was on break yesterday and watched a little bit of the game and what i saw was plumlee strip barea of the ball which led to a nice fast break bucket by rose

then i saw harden pass up a wide open 3 and passed down low to an open plumlee for the easy basket

then thompson passed to rudy gay who was in the post with a point guard on him for an easy turnaround 8 foot jumper.


I have yet to see a single post in this thread saying something good about what team usa has done in any game so far....... yet they are destroying every team, every game.

Just seems like alot of hatin for our own country team goin on
 
fishonjazz said:
I was on break yesterday and watched a little bit of the game and what i saw was plumlee strip barea of the ball which led to a nice fast break bucket by rose

then i saw harden pass up a wide open 3 and passed down low to an open plumlee for the easy basket

then thompson passed to rudy gay who was in the post with a point guard on him for an easy turnaround 8 foot jumper.


I have yet to see a single post in this thread saying something good about what team usa has done in any game so far....... yet they are destroying every team, every game.

Just seems like alot of hatin for our own country team goin on
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and which of those players play for the Jazz?


I agree with you 100% here.

But the focus of the thread is NOT on Team USA. It's on ANY country's team in the World Cup with a Jazz player on their roster.
 
Looks about right. I probably would've kept Korver, but they're going to need fresh bigs with the 5 games in 6 days or whatever to start the tourney and then later against Spain.
 
Brazil vs Iran is on. Live boxscore here - https://live.baskethotel.com/kzs/?&lang=1. Neto starts on the bench.
Neto in for about 3 minutes in the second. Very quiet. Committed a bad offensive foul for pushing and then missed a cut by his man and gave up and-1 trying to catch up. Then he was out.
Neto back in with 3:20 left in the second. Drives and dishes to Nene, who scores the 15 foot jumper.
Neto drive and kick for open 3. And one more pass for a 3.
Neto drives and tries a floater, but it doesn't go in.
Halftime - Brazil leads 48:24. Neto with 3 assists and 1 turnover in 7 minutes of play...
Q3: Neto on the bench.
Neto in, 1 steal and 1 turnover...
Neto in transition, drives to the basket, fouled on the layup. Scores both FT.
Nice drive and jumper from 1 leg from 10 feet. Neto is a pest in defense. I like his effort.
Nice cut to the basket, scores the layup.
Q4: Neto scores again - long 2 jumper.
Drives to the FT line, misses the floater...
Nice steal and wide open layup in transition. He's got 10pts now.
Neto out, Huertas in and turns over the ball stupidly with his very first touch.

Game over. Neto finished with 10pts(4/6 FG, 2/2 FT), 3 assists, 2 TO, 2 steals in about 20 minutes of play.
 
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AlaskanAssassin said:
I would be upset if I was Hayward too. He put in a lot of time with the team that took away from other things he could have been doing. Once games roll around, everyone should at least get a chance to prove themselves. He didn't get a fair shake.

The biggest thing that bothers me is the whole Rudy Gay thing. If they really thought Rudy was a better fit for the national team why wasn't he invited originally over Hayward??? To me that is a sign that Hayward literally had a 0% chance of making the final cut. If injuries/withdraws don't improve your chances of making the team it means he wasn't considered a finalist from the beginning.

Also, Rudy Gay and Demarcus Cousins are both representing our country???!!!!!!! Is Coach K insane?
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I could see all the guys getting cut being upset with the Rudy Gay and Plumlee additions. Gay being added was the death sentence for Hayward. After telling all select players they were not being considered for the World Cup team and then adding Plumlee wouldn't make me happy.

I think the USA team should have kept another shooter. Davis, Faried, Plumlee, Drummond and COusins seems like too many big guys in a game that requires outside shooting. I certainly don't think the USA is a lock to win the whole thing.
 
orangello said:
Brazil was the only real competition for the team. DR and PR should have been blown out by more.
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fishonjazz said:
Just seems like alot of hatin for our own country team goin on
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I partially agree with you fish, but orengello has a valid point too.

Turkish NT this year have the worst team of maybe the last 30 years and they are with 1W - 7L so far in the preparation games. And guess what, the only game they won was against Puerto Rico that have scored 86 points against USA.
 
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