Jazz claim Joe Ingles and Jordan Hamilton off waivers.

[zyzz]

Does it rustle anyone's jimmies the Jazz didn't use their 35th overall pick because they didn't want 3 rookies coming into camp, and then brought a bunch of fringe NBA players into camp?

Would any of you have rather had the Jazz take a chance with a Spencer Dinwiddie, Roy Devyn Marble, Jerami Grant, Glenn Robinson III, Nick Johnson, Russ Smith, etc.? I suppose they just didn't want 3 rookie deals up for an extension at the same time, but I thought 2nd rounders' rookie contracts were up sooner than first rounders'.

 

[Gameface]

Does it rustle anyone's jimmies the Jazz didn't use their 35th overall pick because they didn't want 3 rookies coming into camp, and then brought a bunch of fringe NBA players into camp?

Would any of you have rather had the Jazz take a chance with a Spencer Dinwiddie, Roy Devyn Marble, Jerami Grant, Glenn Robinson III, Nick Johnson, Russ Smith, etc.? I suppose they just didn't want 3 rookie deals up for an extension at the same time, but I thought 2nd rounders' rookie contracts were up sooner than first rounders'.

Not mine.

I want the team to focus on the core and not try to develop 3rd tier players while establishing a legit NBA identity.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Does it rustle anyone's jimmies the Jazz didn't use their 35th overall pick because they didn't want 3 rookies coming into camp, and then brought a bunch of fringe NBA players into camp?

Would any of you have rather had the Jazz take a chance with a Spencer Dinwiddie, Roy Devyn Marble, Jerami Grant, Glenn Robinson III, Nick Johnson, Russ Smith, etc.? I suppose they just didn't want 3 rookie deals up for an extension at the same time, but I thought 2nd rounders' rookie contracts were up sooner than first rounders'.

It didn't bother me that they didn't want to bring in a 3rd rook... just thought they could get more for the pick. These other guys are young veterans that have shown some potential. I like the additions of both of them... I've seen enough of Felix and Murray so why not add a couple more prospects.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Does it rustle anyone's jimmies the Jazz didn't use their 35th overall pick because they didn't want 3 rookies coming into camp, and then brought a bunch of fringe NBA players into camp?

Would any of you have rather had the Jazz take a chance with a Spencer Dinwiddie, Roy Devyn Marble, Jerami Grant, Glenn Robinson III, Nick Johnson, Russ Smith, etc.? I suppose they just didn't want 3 rookie deals up for an extension at the same time, but I thought 2nd rounders' rookie contracts were up sooner than first rounders'.

My jimmies remain perfectly smooth

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Locke says Ingles had a really good practice and there is a chance he might play tonight.

 

[Stifle Tower]

My jimmies remain perfectly smooth

Mine tented out at the thought of the Jazz opening their season tonight.

DL probably wanted to use that 2nd on a "draft and stash" player but there was no one left that was rated highly on their board. Or perhaps they just want to have plenty of ammo to offer in case Philly wants to sell off their roster again.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Mine tented out at the thought of the Jazz opening their season tonight.

DL probably wanted to use that 2nd on a "draft and stash" player but there was no one left that was rated highly on their board. Or perhaps they just want to have plenty of ammo to offer in case Philly wants to sell off their roster again.

I think he was in a tough spot... we have prospects at every spot and there is a lot more that goes into the draft and stash than we likely realize. What if the kid doesn't want to be stashed... DL has to consider relationships he has with agents and such. 2nd round picks always seem to lose value on draft night.

I can forgive DL if he doesn't squeeze every piece of value out of every trade. He brought Rudy Gobert into my life... and that means a lot.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I think he was in a tough spot... we have prospects at every spot and there is a lot more that goes into the draft and stash than we likely realize. What if the kid doesn't want to be stashed... DL has to consider relationships he has with agents and such. 2nd round picks always seem to lose value on draft night.

I can forgive DL if he doesn't squeeze every piece of value out of every trade. He brought Rudy Gobert into my life... and that means a lot.

And Rodney Hood.
If Burke has a good season we have absolutely NOTHING to complain about right now, except debating whether Toure Murry or Brock Motum would have looked better in a blazer behind the Jazz bench during the game.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wow, wow, wow. Ingles is a great addition folks.

He has some defensive deficiencies and it could be more exposed in the NBA, but you can trust me there are many other reasons that make this a great move. You are going to love him. He is an ex-Barca player, a crucial member of the Boomers and he was one of the fav players of David Blatt on the last year's Euroleague champion team. He's a crafty, very smart lefty player. He has nice play-making abilities ala our precious Gordo and he is excellent at P&R offense. Actually forget all, just think a Hayward Lite with sub par defense with being less TO prone.

Two things he's even better than Hayward are his dynamic shooting(he's really good at that) and his Euro-Cuts. (plus maybe his length, 6'8" with 6'10" wingspan).

But most importantly, he is FUN to watch. Believe me if he can adapt to the NBA game, the Jazz will be even more exciting and enjoyable to watch this season. I might be over-reacting now and sound like I'm overrating him but no, I'm REALLY happy with this news.

Loving Joe's dynamic shooting so far. The way he passes up open shots is very dynamic

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

No it's not. We are talking about Euroleague level here. Sorry but you're talking from the typical NBA high-horse. Ingles is a well known talent who proved himself to be not maybe a star but a very beneficial player on multiple high levels. Now, he's gonna try to make it in the NBA.

From your point of view, Diamantidis or Spanoulis are worse PGs than all NBA PGs.

Still riding that NBA high horse of being completely right. Some guys just can't hang with NBA athletes. Ingles can't (unless you consider "hanging" to be just being on the court making swing passes). Poor man's Australian Luke Walton.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Have to fill a roster. If Ingles is the worst player on the team next season, I'd be very happy.

 

[Tarkanian]

Ingles is the least of Jazz problems.
I cannot get the constant bitching about a player so unimportant.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Ingles is the least of Jazz problems.
I cannot get the constant bitching about a player so unimportant.

He's getting minutes. He was the inbounder on a play that cost the Jazz the chance to send a game into O/T. Bitchin' deserved.

 

[homeytennis]

He's getting minutes. He was the inbounder on a play that cost the Jazz the chance to send a game into O/T. Bitchin' deserved.

I see Jordan Hamilton appeared in a Reno Bighorn's box score over the weekend.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He is longer, that's a fact, so not going to argue it. Not saying he can use it or anything else but, I'm hundred percent sure that Hayward won't add inches to his wingspan anytime any soon.

The cuts; it's arguable, I've seen many cuts from Hayward the three years I've watched him, he has it. But they were never natural as Ingles can do. To me, it's that way, you can see the other way, I respect that. It's subjective.

Dynamic shooting; well, every basketball player(most players at least) has his own unique thing that they can do very well. For Ingles, this is it. The guy has a good shooting balance and can really shoot the ball off the balance, like while running, after dribble or while leaning sideways. How good is Hayward at these? He even struggled with his spot up shooting for a long time.

I don't know what did I say to get such a strong objection from you but to assure my viewpoint, I will state that I in no way think that Ingles is as good a player as Hayward is. Not even close. If my Hayward Lite phrase made you think that I think that way, forget about it. Gordo is the better player by miles in any kind of comparison.

But you said, let's be honest. I was and still am honest with the things I said.

That time someone thought Ingles was a better dynamic shooter than Hayward because he did in the Europe........

Pretty laughable since Hayward ended up being one of the best isolation scorers last year. I tried to tell y'all. What up Dalamon?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's kind of like saying Ian Clark would be a better 3pt shooter than Hayward since his 4 year college averages where off the charts, then he gets to the NBA and he isn't nearly as good a 3pt shooter. The NBA athleticism, size, and strength changes things and some players can't adapt.

Take it easy on him ECTYA. Cy's probably watched no more than 3 Euroleague games in his entire life.

Watched no more than 3 Euroleauge games and still knew Hayward was a better dynamic shooter than Ingles.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Ingles was a good player in the Euroleague's. He has proven that he is a good player over there.

He hasn't proven he can do anything of those things in the NBA. To say he is better than Hayward at anything is insulting. Hayward has earned his respect on the NBA court and Ingles hasn't.

Ante Tomic has shown to be one of the best passing bigs in the world, through the Euroleague.

But with #CyLogic we surely can't say that he's a better passer than Enes Kanter.

What a moron, tbh.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's kind of like saying Ian Clark would be a better 3pt shooter than Hayward since his 4 year college averages where off the charts, then he gets to the NBA and he isn't nearly as good a 3pt shooter. The NBA athleticism, size, and strength changes things and some players can't adapt.

Ante Tomic has shown to be one of the best passing bigs in the world, through the Euroleague.

But with #CyLogic we surely can't say that he's a better passer than Enes Kanter.

What a moron, tbh.

Uhh, how is that Cy logic? My logic was that Hayward is a great player and has proven to be good at everything. Also, Cy logic involves hating everything Kanter has ever done since before he was drafted. It was another example of how accurate Cy logic usually is.

Kanter is a terrible passer and has proven to be a terrible passer. I would believe most players who have ever played competitive basketball at a professional level to probably be better passers than Kanter since Kanter has consistently proven to be an awful passer.

Just take the L dawg like you and Kanter always do.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It was hilarious last off-season to see every consistently underrate Hayward while I championed him the entire off-season and supported his re-signing. It got to bad that people thought Joe Ingles was a better "dynamic" shooter than Hayward. That's how bad it got. Glad I hear to speak common sense.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Uhh, how is that Cy logic? My logic was that Hayward is a great player and has proven to be good at everything.

Kanter is a terrible passer and has proven to be a terrible passer. I would believe most players who have ever played competitive basketball at a professional level to probably be better passers than Kanter since Kanter has consistently proven to be an awful passer.

Just take the L dawg like you and Kanter always do.

Dat Mississippi State education doe, leaving you with the reading comprehension of a 3rd-grader.