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Al Jefferson to Utah? ...Mark Stein's Twitter reports

Hopefully we aren't really giving up 2 first round picks, although it's not like we do much with firsts anyway. Whatever though, I'll have the first Jefferson jersey available. A legit post player who is taller, younger, and cheaper than Booze? Stoked.
 
billyshelby said:
Well, Jefferson doesn't help very much with the program to lose 82 games next year and get a top 4 pick. And if we don't win the championship with him, we're a lot farther away from accomplishing absolutely nothing. So maybe you should remember what we're trying to do here.
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Man makes a good point
 
Realjazz said:
If this happens we go from having Boozer who averaged .5 blocked shots per game to Jefferson averaged 1.3 last year. To put that in perspective Millsap averaged 1.2 last year. Getting an extra blocked shot per game is not going to hurt our defense. I can't say that I've scouted Jefferson to the point that I know everything about his game, but getting a guy that is easily 2 or 3 inches taller and I would assume has a larger wingspan than the guy we lost and he blocks more shots and rebounds at about the same rate, how can that not at least slightly improve your defense?
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Be prepared to take heat from chumps who think you should know everything about everyone. good luck and godspeed!
 
Al Tends to run into big guys more and from what i seen 25 points early this year against the lakers. Big thing on boozer is he had about 17 blocks maybe less against him against the lakers in the playoffs. Boozer did not use his body good against gasol.
 
I don't want to brag or anything, but it was I who made the first Al Jefferson thread recomendation, but unfortunatley it got locked by a "Real" mod.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Much like David Lee, being forced to play out of position doesn't make you a player of that position. Jefferson is not a C and is a terrible defender. He's everything everyone hates about Boozer but with a worse injury history and a uni-dimensional offensive game.
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Are you sure about that comment?
It would help to do some research before you spout off and destroy your credibility. Jefferson has played in 83% of games over the last six years, Boozer played in 72%. Even if you include Boozer's 2 years in Chicago, that only brings him up to 78%.

Boozer, who everyone ssys is a "20/10" guy has actually hit that mark twice. He was pretty close last season at 19.5 points. In no other season has he averaged more than 18 pts.

Jefferson has also been a 20/10 player two times. He "slumped" to 17/9 last season. Carlos is slightly more efficient than Jefferson, with a career FG of 54% vs. 50% for Al.

Personally, I like the chances of Al putting up even BIGGER numbers in the PF-centric offense the Jazz run. And with the Jazz, at least on offense, the 4/5 is interchangeable just like the 2/3. So if Jefferson plays the "5" with Millsap or AK at the "4" he's going to get the same number of pick-and-rolls.

In fact, with Millsap being undersized and having a very good mod-range game, I like the thought of Al running the P&R with Millsap being the kick-out option or cleaning the glass.

GREAT MOVE. KOC!!!
 
Can Okur come back % 100? If he can Okur-Jefferson-Millsap may work. Jefferson is as bad a defender as Boozer was but at least he is taller and brings more size to the table. He doesn't have very high basketbal IQ, and will not get the assists that Boozer got in the Jazz system. He will block more shots, maybe make a few more steals, rebound a little less, shoot a lowe rpercentage from the field and the line. Should Jazz fans be happy? We will have to see him in Sloan's system and with D-Will feeding him.
 
I like "Big Al". I thought that Utah should've drafted him (he went #15 after Krissy Humphries), and maybe this is why they are willing to nab him now, just like they nabbed Boozer after regretting about not drafting him (along with half the teams in the NBA). Looks like Minny is unloading him because he's more of a post player, not a triangle-offense guy. Too bad Rambis is too inflexible to adapt the offense to his players, rather than vice-versa.

At draft time, AJ was a high-schooler, and Utah was probably leery after their underwhelming experience with DeShawn Stevenson. But AJ seemed to be less of a "hopper" than DS, and ironically, K-Hump turned into a bit of a headcase anyway after being an unjustified epicenter of the offense at the University of Minnesota for a single season--one measly year more than the taller Jefferson.

If Jefferson's past injuries don't bother him, I could see him be modestly better to Boozer in short order. At a slightly cheaper price.

Just show me effort on defense, Big Al, and you will win my adoration over Boozer. "Regardless."

At draft time, AJ showed a 2-inch better maximum vertical than boozer and a similar 3/4-court speed but much slower lane agility.
https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Al-Jefferson-2979/

I am SHOCKED that Booze showed such a good lane agility because he barely moves his feet on D.
https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Carlos-Boozer-1734/
What a waste of talent. If Boozer weren't such a selfish ******* (and I'm talking defense and stats, not salary), even by NBA standards, Utah could've gone farther. I can see AK-PM-AJ as a very nice frontcourt on both ends of the floor.
 
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Looking at Boozers and Jefferson's stats on NBA.com:
Boozer is much more likely to score 25+ points, get to the line, and score ~10pt against the lakers (looked at just last seasons games)
Jefferson gets his 17ppg more or less every game. But not as many big scoring games. Goes to the line ~ 1/2 of boozer.
Boozer has a lot more assists (3+ to 1 ish) Is that the Wolves vs Jazz system or is Jefferson not a good passer?
As all of you noted before Boozer is pick and roll, pick and pop. Jefferson is that jump hook thingy. (more typical post game)

One of the playoff 'flaws' of CB and Karl Malone is that they go to the hole well and get AND1 opportunities a plenty... in the regular season. Those don't come so plentiful in the playoffs.

I think this (fingers crossed) acquisition is great in that
Financial Cost is in Jazz favor
Change of Boozer+Millsap to Jefferson+Millsap is in Jazz favor (2 different players rather than two identical players on offense)
Change of Boozer+Millsap to Jefferson+Millsap is in Jazz favor (defensively against the right teams)
Change for change sake is in the JazzFanz forum favor - it at least makes it appear that the Jazz are active and we quit hatin so much
But really, was the Boozer+Millsap going to work? We saw it is not, so a chance with another arrangment could be good.
The possibility of Fes actually playing decent with Fes, Jefferson, AK on the front line would be good to experiment with as well... as i put on my Jazz colored glasses... for going against the right teams (LAL)

And if this does pan out it shows that losing a player and gaining even cap space and especially a trade exception means all this talk of losing Boozer for "nothing" was not true.
 
LunaticWolf said:
He is going to get less shots here though. 19-20ppg
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It appears from the game to game stats on NBA.com that Boozer got a lot more shots than AJ. I don't see why he'd not get equal to his Twolve #. If he doesn't get as many as Booze that would be good, becuase it would imply the whole Jazz team is picking up slack somewhere. Boozer was relied on heavily on offense... we'll see if AJ is needed as much.

Can anyone comment that the Jazz are particularly good at developing post players. I think its actually hard to assess when you've only really had 3 in the last 28 years. Without a doubt in my mind the Jazz system makes role players good here, but will AJ's game have a notable increase comming here?
 
That money makes me very, very nervous. The majority of our cap will be tied up in Al, Deron, Sap, and Memo for the next couple of years-it's a good core, but is it a title winning core?

On the other hand....I've always wanted to see Jefferson in a Jazz jersey...
 
It'll keep the Jazz competitive, but realistically, I don't see it as the roster being substantially different with Jefferson instead of Boozer. I'm not a huge fan of this potential move, but at least it isn't Brand, I guess.
 
This all happened a little to quickly I'm starting to think. I remember Minny had high interest in Ante Tomic.....did KOC panic and throw in Tomic, mortaging the future, to appease Deron?
 
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