Burke Invited To The US Select Team
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You realize this link is to a thread with no links to the actual comment in question right?
Also I have no problem with you saying his shooting sucks. It's just that saying someone or something sucks is far too subjective to result in a reasonable discussion. Saying his height sucks doesn't mean much and is completely your opinion.
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Why do people dissect everything about Burke.
He's cocky? Really, anymore than any other player in the NBA. These guys are the best in the world at what they do... if any of us were even the best in our city we'd get a big head. These guys have to have irrational confidence to think they are the best in the world and perform at these levels. Especially when they are as small as Burke.
Burke is one of the guys who shows some leadership potential and this experience will help him... Happy for the guy.
He's cocky? Really, anymore than any other player in the NBA. These guys are the best in the world at what they do... if any of us were even the best in our city we'd get a big head. These guys have to have irrational confidence to think they are the best in the world and perform at these levels. Especially when they are as small as Burke.
Burke is one of the guys who shows some leadership potential and this experience will help him... Happy for the guy.
Well I guess that is one way to interpret his comments. How about this way? Favors and Kanter both think they are PFs and have stated such. So maybe Trey thinks that too. Gobert was no where near being ready last year and so his comment about needing a legitimate center isn't too off base. I guess he could have said something like hopefully Gobert is our center. However after last year no one thought Gobert was a starting center except Gobert homers. Gobert looked great in SL but he has yet to prove he is a starting center.
Nevertheless, since he was asked this during the draft, saying the Jazz need a starting center isn't so far fetched especially with the prospect of drafting Embiid was still possible. Why would Burke mention anyone on the Jazz last year as being a better shooter than Stauskis? There was no one on the Jazz even close to Staukis so his statement is true. What is wrong with that? He was actually saying a great thing about his former teammate. It sounds as though you want Trey to but his Jazz homer cap on and bow down to the Jazz Bear idol.
Remember these comments were at the draft and none of them show any lack of loyalty or truth to them. Now you might argue that center isn't the most important position of need but SF is a greater need. You nor Trey would be wrong stating that and I am sure it would open a discussion about which position is a greater need.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with what he said and I doubt any of his teammates took offense to it. Comments coming out of SL from the young guys were that Trey was being a leader and showing the guys the ropes and encouraging them.
This. I remember Trey tweeting out that he could see himself spending his whole career in Utah, so I think his commitment at this point is a nonissue. As for the draft and mentioning we needed a true center, the Embiid possibility was on his mind. He also said he'd like Exum, a PG. I think that says a lot knowing that Exum is a PG and wants to play PG. That was really big of him IMO.
His confidence and swagger reminds me a little bit of CJ tho, which is concerning. Hopefully he works to improve all the things we've mentioned, i.e. shooting, decision making, finishing, and defense.
So far I think the hate is unwarranted at this point and the US team selection is nothing but promising. Coach K and others see his potential, I think the fan base could at least give him the benefit of the doubt at this point and root for the guy to succeed.
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OK, I won't say Burke's shooting sucks or is even very low.
But I do have a few questions:
1. How many teams had a starting guard shoot worse than 38%/33%?
2. How many playoff teams had a starting guard shoot that poorly?
3. How many second year players shot considerably WORSE in the summer league than they did during their rookie seasons?
What concerns me is seeing other players (like a McCollum) come out and DOMINATE rookies and scrubs (as they should) and Burke comes out and shoots 30%/14%. HE has a GLARING weakness to his game that has been evident since the last summer league. And there has been little improvement.
I think it's telling the Jazz are looking for another guard. Prior to summer league, Lindsey had spoken of a 3-guard rotation with Burke, Burks and Exum. Somehow I don't think the disappointment is with Exum. I think the Jazz are very concerned with Trey. Assists/TO ratio: that's all he can hang his hat on right now.
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My hate goggles will come off when he starts shooting in the neighborhood of 45%/37%
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Snyder's empty post/double high screen offense will play up to Trey's strengths.
Corbin's offense allowed defenses to pack the paint and forced Trey to play to his weaknesses (long, contested 2s). This will not happen under Snyder and I expect his % to move up significantly. His assists will be about the same, but I expect they'll be of much higher quality.
I hope his assists go up, but I hang this hope on having outside shooters hitting more open 3's, and possibly post players hitting more close shots as defenders are forced to not leave the 3pt line to double/pack the paint. That would be our offensive utopia going as planned anyways.
Lol. Burke is now the sky falling? I guess you could always complain it's falling and that'll make it stop. Oh wait...
With Hayward running the O less and spot shouting more, along with Hood and Novak, and I think we will see the teams 3% average rise dramatically.
We must turn the sky falling into to something good.... if the sky is falling at a rate of 40% I will smile and send a rainbow.
I really hope so.
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I didn't look to see what they meant.
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Seriously what is with all of the negativity on this forum? I realize that Burke has been a bit of a disappoint so far, but it seems like more people are rooting for his failure so they can confirm their feelings about him as a player. I'm not saying everyone should pretend to love him, but do you need to **** on every Jazz player you don't like in every thread? It's getting really old.
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When a player plays good people love and when a player play bad people hate him. I used to be an Orlando Magic fan and the whole forum worshiped Dwight Howard saying stuff like he is even better than Shaq, Penny etc (before you know...). I am pretty sure if you go to the trailblazers forum they would love Damian Lillard. You think we should love a player unconditionally? If Trey Burke becomes a top 5 PG in the league everyone will go fanboy on him and say he is best PG in the entire league even if he isn't. Utah Jazz hasn't had that one player who overachieved (excluding second round picks) for a long time. If Trey Burke becomes Damian Lillard or Gordon Hayward becomes Paul George Jazz fanz will be more positive.
It is not so bad being a pessimist as you are rarely disappointed. On a disappointing team it shouldn't be surprising to see people gravitate towards pessimism.
I don't think they'll go up because the usage opportunity won't be there, not because he won't improve. We have five players with a legitimate shot at running this offense through (Burke, Burks, Hayward, Hood, Dante).
Every dumb *** thinks they need to make one or more dumb *** clones to prove to the world how dumb they are.
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I agree it is easier for some to look at the negative, but I've been on this board for four years and people will find something to be unhappy about even when the team is doing better. I think part of the problem is that long time Jazz fans were incredibly spoiled by having Stockton and Malone. That was a perfect storm for the Jazz that we'll unlikely ever see again. I think people should try to temper their expectations a bit.