With a work ethic like Derrick Williams has, and the results he has produced, I have a hard time doubting him when he says he can play the 3.
Derrick Williams or Enes Kanter?
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BENTLEY
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Williams is certainly stressing that he's a 3, which gives me hope. I'm sure that he will try to exhibit the traits of a 3 in workouts. We'll see.
Jazz just take whoever falls. The top 3 picks this year are equal IMO. I'm happy with any of them, and we don't even have to make a decision since Cleveland and Minny will do that for us.
Jazz just take whoever falls. The top 3 picks this year are equal IMO. I'm happy with any of them, and we don't even have to make a decision since Cleveland and Minny will do that for us.
BENTLEY
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I'm gonna start using this until someone tells me what it means.
billyshelby
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With just words, even the cheese ship doesn't move on.
guys come on, i think ure dreaming. Right now im watching his highlights again and again thinking if im mistaking , if everyone is right and im wrong. Ok i take my word back about Al horford, but this guy is like a strong Richard jefferson. He finishes very strong, he shoots 3s sometimes, but he cant create anythng on his own . How will he take over games at the end? Even jefferson producing something as a go to guy. This guy is nothing close to a go to guy.
it means, if u talk big about urself as much as u want, it doesnt mean anythng, its just words, u have to prove urself
But why cheese ship?
hahaha, its funny, everyone is stuck in a stupid translation. i wrote the meaning above, lets not mess the topic. I claim that, Derrick williams cant be a go to guy in high level games. I wanna hear peoples opinions about that? Am i wrong? am i still Kanters agent? or will anyone give me a little bit credit ?
BENTLEY
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I'm just giving you a hard time, Sep. It's an american a-hole kinda thing - it means "friend."
Let me ask you a question, Sep: If Kanter's selected 1 or 2, who do you think the Jazz should take 3rd?
im not sure but i think, cheese is soft and light so a ship made from cheese can move easily, but with only words, even cheese ship doesnt move. its my guess
BENTLEY
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Oh, ok. In USA we say "talk is cheap."
if derrick goes top, we get irving.
if irving goes top. then its difficult. i m kinda biased against derrick. But i would, pick derrick, try to trade down to get brandon knight plus a good player from that team.
I actually think, Kawhi leonard may end up being a more useful player than derrick. But it is nonsense to pick another player at 3, except enes, irving and derrick. Because all other players were projected top ten before barnes, sullinger, p jones declared
I think Williams is a potential number 1 player on a bad team. I think on a championship team he can be a 2nd option.
BENTLEY
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Yeah, I'm thinking the Jazz have to take whichever falls of Irving, Williams, or Kanter. And then they can trade, or not. I actually am becoming more convinced of Williams - but I'm still not sure about him at the 3. The fact that he's talking like he's a 3 is good I think though. But yeah, talk is cheap. He's gotta actually be able to man the position. Hope so 'cause his value in the league will be greater as a trade piece, or a Utah Jazz stud.
whats the thing, that makes u like this guys play so much? Is it just athletism ? because nba is full of such athletes. Shotting 3s? He is a decent shooter, nothing to exagarate.
His dribbles? i dont think he can dribble well at all. His first step is good but he doenst have handling and skill to go past through players like pierce does. And he compares himself to lebron, Lebron is using every clutch shot in everygame for the last 6 yrs with least mistake.
My answer to this is YET. Williams has a lot to prove this is true. But as a high level athlete with a great motor I wouldn't put it past him to get there in the next 3 years or so. I don't think there is a single guy in the draft this year that can be a go to guy in a high level game in the next 2 years. So why not take the guy with the perceived biggest upside?
As for Credit I well give you this: You know more about one prospect in Kanter than anyone on this board knows about any of the other prospects. Giving you a good Idea what he is capable of. Because of that you can argue with the Jazz taking him over anyone else and be very sure that your argument is very factual. Giving you an advantage over almost all of us in that argument.
But that also has completely made up your mind that Kanter should be the pick the Jazz make no mater what. Most of us on the other hand are not so sure. If the Jazz take Kanter and he is the player u claim he is and can become then You well be highly praised and hit Honz status with the Hayward pick. But if your wrong and Kanter doesn't pan out then credit well be hard to come by in the future.
