Game 3 WCSF: Thank you, Kobe! — Rockets @ Jazz 5/4/2018 8:30 pm MST

[TheStormofWar]

I'm not actually sad. This team is learning as they go and they learned some valuable lessons last night. Quin is a tremendous between-game adjustment coach and will rectify what needs to be done. This is the number one team in the league we're facing and we've done better this year than I could have possibly imagined. Where we hurting so badly at the beginning of the year, this team nutted up and pulled off a miracle. We're better than what we played last night. We've injuries and were embarrassed in our backyard. The team's leaders will need to step up and show it was an aberration rather than the state of things. It's time to kick Houston in the jimmy for doing it to us.

It's clear the Jazz do have needs, but they aren't overly huge ones. Even if this proves to be the end of the series, what this team accomplished was nothing short of amazing. There is a ton of foundation to build on and, going forward, Utah will be going supernova in all the right ways in the years to come.

 

[magic]

Thanks for ruining our boi Kobe!

If anything DM stopped listening to Kobe's advice for this game. He started driving from nearly half court again, he continued to try scoop layups instead of putting his body into the defenders and forcing the refs to make a call, etc.

 

[Miggs]

That escalated quickly.

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

Obviously you have to give HOU credit for coming out and playing very very well, the Jazz would've had to play great to win with how HOU came out. However the Jazz came out like they were reading all the nice things the national sports writers and Sport shows said about them.

I kept waiting for the Jazz to counter but Mitchell and Ingles both completely blew *** chunks so many bad decisions and turnovers, no ball movement, now player movement no anything of any kind that resembled them being ready to play, this would've been a poor effort in terms of being mentally ready in the regular season. For the playoffs it is all but inexcusable for a team like the Jazz that can't out talent any team in the playoffs and has to play and use the team to score.

Watching Mitchell and Ingles was like they only had 1 option and that was the only 1 thing they were ever going to do, HOU was overplaying that 1 thing and no one countered, moved off the ball or anything just ugly offense made it ssssooooo easy for HOU that they didn't even have to really try offensively. The Jazz' "offense" gifted them so many easy points and not that the Jazz had much of a chance to win the series but they didn't make the HOU offense work to beat them and HOU's offense is good enough and due to do so in this series so making it even less likely that they'll be able pull off another win, unless HOU gets overconfident and flat again.

 

[Ellipse]

We're handicapped with Mitchell at the point. Quin admitted that he dumbed-downed our offense so that Donovan wouldn't be overwhelmed by having to run the offense and score. The problem is, without using our extended playbook, our ball movement is dead and so is our offense. Since, Joe has shown that he can't run the point-forward against Houston, then we need to replace Royce with either Neto to run the point, or Exum to play the 2. We may also need to start Crowder over Favors. (Without ball movement, the Gobert-Favors tandem just doesn't work against Houston.)

 

[MVP]

Did not watch the game, but have it recorded. Reading some posts it looks like I better not torture myself. Was there anything positive at all?

 

[gregbroncs]

The Rockets came out and took the Jazz out of what they wanted to do. They Blitzed Donovan and pressured the rest of the guys. They also came out and played to make shots not draw fouls. Harden actually didn't flop nearly as much as the first 2 games and just came out looking for what the Jazz gave him.

That was a tough game to watch. Hopefully they play better next game.

 

[gregbroncs]

Did not watch the game, but have it recorded. Reading some posts it looks like I better not torture myself. Was there anything positive at all?

Not much. The game was pretty much over 6 minutes in.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I luckily missed every minute of this stinker.

Game 4 is obviously a must-win, and our only chance at this series rests on Rubio being able to return for game 5.

 

[Siro]

Did not watch the game, but have it recorded. Reading some posts it looks like I better not torture myself. Was there anything positive at all?

They were condescending after Jazz' game 2 win, talking about how they should play hard "regardless of who they're playing" blah blah. Then they come out of the gate with a lot of intensity and "we're way better than you" attitude, and put the game to rest before the first quarter ended.

An absolute embarrassment. I turned it off at half time. Wanted to cry.

 

[Miggs]

I'm really ****ing tired of the turnovers. Many of them are so pathetically bad and avoidable and it's been happening too often.

OKC1 = 14 turnovers and loss
OKC2 = 14 turnovers and win
OKC3 = 19 turnovers and win
OKC4 = 11 turnovers and win
OKC5 = 16 turnovers and loss
OKC6 = 13 turnovers and win
HOU1 = 18 turnovers and loss
HOU2 = 17 turnovers and win
HOU3 = 16 turnovers and loss

15.33 turnovers a game. We averaged 14.8 per game during the regular season so I guess considering we're playing playoff teams and not scrubs every night, 15.33 is about to be expected. But I still can't accept it. So many of them are just careless, lazy passes and shouldn't happen and I don't understand what the hell's going through the player's mind when they decide to pass some of them. Terry Rozier had 9 assists the other night and zero turnovers. As a team, the Celts had 23 assists the other night and just 9 turnovers. 27 and 10 the game before that. 28 and 14 before that. 18 and 9 before that. 22 and 17 in game 5 vs the Bucks.

That's 118 assists and 59 turnovers. An exact 2:1 ratio.

We, on the other hand, had 17 and 16 last night. 26 and 17. 20 and 18 before that. 16 and 13 before that. And 19 and 16 prior.

That's 98 assists and 80 turnovers.

This isn't about the Celtics but what the **** that ratio isn't acceptable. And it's not simply because Rubio is out. Even when he was playing, we weren't much better.

 

[Miggs]

We've averaged 17 turnovers a game this series. That won't come close to cutting it against a phenomenal offense.

We need to try to limit TO's to about 13-14.

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

Yeah TO's have been an issue all season, so I guess it should be no surprise it still is and is even worse in the playoffs. Heck even when Rubio is going well he'll have a couple of TO's for TD's (easy dunks & 3's) every game, from a fan's perspective many of these are just lazy automatic type of passes and are so infuriating. Especially when teams know the play and are overplaying that play and first pass the Jazz seem to be horrible and recognizing or reacting to that and backdoor, reverse the ball or counter play that.

Also for all the Jazz development coaching they REALLY need to teach post entry passing and post positioning (a lot like boxing out) to make it easier for the passer. I understand that today's game isn't feed the post but as part of ball movement and the Jazz having advantage when their are mismatches it is and should be a part of the offense and one IMO that isn't used enough.

 

[mellow]

I was driving last night. The jazz radio network is a sad shell compared to what it once was, so i could only catch a faint signal on the hilltops.

I heard jazz open with a bucket then faded out, when it came back in the score was 12-3 or something. I could tell by Lockes voice it was over.

When houston replaces Ariza with Lebron they will be special. I hate the nba.

 

[Odgerton13]

Gob bless you

As stated, the Rockets are not designed for play8off basketball. They are not playing to win games, but playing to game the system. It worked fabulously in the regular season, just enough to reinforce such bad habits that are now too hard to correct and overcome. We’ve begun the process of getting in their heads as the pressure will now be mounting on Paul, Harden, and D’Antoni with their past playoff performances.

Jae has, as predicted, started to rattle Harden.

And then there’s this guy:

Harden, thinking he can get under skin himself, has his plan foiled and completely backfire thanks to Ingles:

And Jingles be getting under skin...

Thanks to Ingles, he also got an early start to this...

March 1, 2018

Mike Tyson makes JazzFanz history as he makes his debut appearance in game threads. He goes on to lead the Jazz to a 9-game winning streak. As today is May the Fourth, this one’s for you, buddy!

And a special shoutout to the guy who helped us be aggressive and hone that killer instinct.

Is this thread lacking in rich storyline, silly photoshops (let’s be real, it’s MS Paint), and awesome GIFs? Yes, yes it is. Stories and GIFs have not been forgotten but are pending and in the wings. But that will all be made up for, and explained by, tonight’s game thread girl — my girl:

Born last night, she’s the 5th (and final) of five children, and our only girl. Would be great for her birth date to be straddling Jazz playoff victories!

God bless your baby girl. Also thank you so much for your effort and enthusiasm as a Jazz fan. This has been such a special season and you have provided so much flair. Thank you.

Ps. Congrats again on your new entry into the world!

 

[Coach Ellis]

Time to regroup. 11 games away from a championship. Donovan and Rudy aren’t going to be happy with their efforts and I hope they both take it to the Rockets in game 4.

The Jazz learn from their mistakes and work hard to correct them. They got lulled to sleep by winning Game 2 and coming back home thinking the crowd would lift them up. Played with little energy or sense of urgency (except O’Neale who was excellent in both areas) and they can’t afford to do that against this team. I think they’ll respond accordingly.

The players. Quin and the coaches. Even DL and evaluating future roster configurations. The entire organization is learning a to about themselves over the course of this year and will keep staying hungry for improvement.

 

[Sean]

They were condescending after Jazz' game 2 win, talking about how they should play hard "regardless of who they're playing" blah blah. Then they come out of the gate with a lot of intensity and "we're way better than you" attitude, and put the game to rest before the first quarter ended.

An absolute embarrassment. I turned it off at half time. Wanted to cry.

This is an underrated comment.

I thought Houston was absolutely dismissive of Utah following their loss in game two. They just basically laughed it off and the vibe I got was that, despite Utah winning that game, they still didn't respect the Jazz. That sucks extra hard because they went out and completely and thoroughly did everything they could to prove that thought right. Their not needing to worry about little ol Utah was validated and so was their dismissive approach to game two. It's clear Houston has zero respect for Utah's ability in this series and the kicker? They're probably justified in those thoughts. Houston, even after losing home court advantage, just kinda shrugged like it was no big thing. And it wasn't.

It's like those scenes in a movie where the tough guy takes a few punches and just laughs before landing the knockout blow.

 

[Hotdog]

If anything DM stopped listening to Kobe's advice for this game. He started driving from nearly half court again, he continued to try scoop layups instead of putting his body into the defenders and forcing the refs to make a call, etc.

The point is he has him over thinking things. Now he does nothing right

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

Had to be at work at 5am this morning so I'm just watching the post game interviews and things, I was already only getting about 4hrs of sleep. So as upset and frustrated as I was with Mitchell and Gobert by the end of their post game interview I couldn't stay mad at either of them. Mitchell came out and said he hurt the team by not passing and basically the team would've been better off if he didn't play because he just didn't show up. So he took the loss really hard and then at the end Rudy was trying to pick him up by showing confidence in him and so Mitchell knows he and the rest of the team are still behind him.

So as I said it just reminded me as pissed as I was, I enjoy this team and their chemistry so much they truly are a joy.

 

[infection]

This is an underrated comment.

I thought Houston was absolutely dismissive of Utah following their loss in game two. They just basically laughed it off and the vibe I got was that, despite Utah winning that game, they still didn't respect the Jazz. That sucks extra hard because they went out and completely and thoroughly did everything they could to prove that thought right. Their not needing to worry about little ol Utah was validated and so was their dismissive approach to game two. It's clear Houston has zero respect for Utah's ability in this series and the kicker? They're probably justified in those thoughts. Houston, even after losing home court advantage, just kinda shrugged like it was no big thing. And it wasn't.

It's like those scenes in a movie where the tough guy takes a few punches and just laughs before landing the knockout blow.

I’m never a fan of people finding silver linings in obviously terrible outcomes, so don’t mistake this as that in any case, but I’m big in playing the hand you’re dealt. We certainly have angles to play the hand weren’t dealt, and Houston continuing to drink their own hype and believe they can just turn it on and off at will will add to their complacency, and we can take the lead in this series.

When Houston loses their next game, they won’t sweat it, which will ultimately lead to their next lost.