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How Bad will the Jazz Defense Be This Year?

Handlogten's Heros said:
This... as impressive as the offense has been I just thought he was a Bogey like sieve on D. Very much the opposite. Doesn't block a ton of shots but moves his feet and gets in the play. The way he competes for boards has been wildly impressive to me. He always gets back in the play and competes on the glass... so if he doesn't get it someone else can swoop in and nab it.

Overall the kid looks like he has matured and is like a perfect market fit (not the white guy thing per se.. the fact he has a young family is serious and looking for his opportunity to take more of the spotlight... the cold mountainous climate may not bother him either).

Just an FYI he is not extension eligible and wouldn't sign one if he was. He will likely double his salary when his current 3 year deal is over. The cap will have gone up by like 50% in addition to his improvement. I can see him being very interested in staying here though as it seems to be a great fit.
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LM is a great example of the importance of letting athletes compete for their countries in the offseason. Dude played for god-awful NBA coaches who parked him in the corners -- the Finnish team unlocked his potential and built his confidence through the summer, and he massacred his opponents in the process.

Hardy should get credit for continuing his momentum and giving him opportunities to succeed, but the lion's share of credit goes to Lauri and the Finnish coaching staff
 
George W said:
LM is a great example of the importance of letting athletes compete for their countries in the offseason. Dude played for god-awful NBA coaches who parked him in the corners -- the Finnish team unlocked his potential and built his confidence through the summer, and he massacred his opponents in the process.

Hardy should get credit for continuing his momentum and giving him opportunities to succeed, but the lion's share of credit goes to Lauri and the Finnish coaching staff
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True, but he learned a little something something about elite defense in Cleveland last season, playing next to Mobley and Allen. That coach was limited in his options, besides playing his #3 overall future superstar at the 4 , but he saw enough in Marky to play him at the 3 all season when noone else ever did it previously. I think the Cavs are probably feeling a little bit stupid right now, despite how good Spida has played without Garland available. If Marky had played this great in Cleveland they could have probably kept Agbaji and still got the Spida.
 
Eddie Zero said:
True, but he learned a little something something about elite defense in Cleveland last season, playing next to Mobley and Allen. That coach was limited in his options, besides playing his #3 overall future superstar at the 4 , but he saw enough in Marky to play him at the 3 all season when noone else ever did it previously. I think the Cavs are probably feeling a little bit stupid right now, despite how good Spida has played without Garland available. If Marky had played this great in Cleveland they could have probably kept Agbaji and still got the Spida.
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I think the Cavs were very happy with Lauri last season. There's a lot of mouths to feed in their starting lineup, with the strong investment in Garland and Mobley (and Allen being 100% dependent on others for his scoring opportunities), so having an efficient dude who didn't need the ball much there to compliment them was perfect. But there was no way he could've been doing the stuff he's doing now. Just not enough basketballs, particularly with Garland using a LOT of possessions.

I think the Cavs simply realized that Lauri was being wasted in a 3th/4th option role (and he's too good to play off the bench), and with their need to drastically improve the SG position, the decision to do the Mitchell trade was easy in the end. With Lauri, they lost some firepower, but replaced it with Don and a rotating cadre of dudes at the 3 to space the floor.
 
YoungJefe said:
Lose a top 10 player and the greatest defender in NBA history according to the geniuses of this board and get better defensively, love it.
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We could also say that we loose a top offensive player ( Don) and a good one ( Bogda) but it seems that we have a better team in terms of passing the ball and at the same level in term of offense. Whats does it prove? That Don and Rudy were not that good? No way, just that basketball is a team effort and that last year team was seriously lack of effort....
 
YoungJefe said:
Lose a top 10 player and the greatest defender in NBA history according to the geniuses of this board and get better defensively, love it.
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Wait wait wait wait... Are you saying this is *gasp* a TEAM GAME?! The **** you say? GTFOH with these uninformed opinions!
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yes, let's double down on this ridiculous over-reactive fantasy. The Jazz end the season at 64-18, far and away the best team in the league. They have the #1 seed throughout the playoffs. Markannen puts up a stat line of 26/11/4/2/2 with only 2 TO per game and leads the league in DBPM and most other defensive stats, and he wins MIP, DPOY, and MVP and finals MVP all in the same season. And he comes off the bench for exactly the number of games he needs to and wins the 6MOY as well. First major award sweep in league history. And Hardy also wins COTY. And 5 Jazz players make up the all NBA 1st team. Yes, that is definitely where this is all headed! **** the tank, I am on the Lauri-train mother****ers!!! Choooo-choooooooooo!!!
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Wait, you think we actually lose 16 more games, aren’t we on a pace to go 80-2?;)
 
Agent#00 said:
We lack rim protection for sure but make up for hustle and contesting shots. And obviously the motor of our guys is driving our Team. Hopefully we can sustain this
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Yeah but they are impacting the ball getting to the rim and that negates a true need there as a result. They slack and then the rim protection weakness becomes a massive tank commander
 
Tremendous Upside said:
I think the Cavs were very happy with Lauri last season. There's a lot of mouths to feed in their starting lineup, with the strong investment in Garland and Mobley (and Allen being 100% dependent on others for his scoring opportunities), so having an efficient dude who didn't need the ball much there to compliment them was perfect. But there was no way he could've been doing the stuff he's doing now. Just not enough basketballs, particularly with Garland using a LOT of possessions.

I think the Cavs simply realized that Lauri was being wasted in a 3th/4th option role (and he's too good to play off the bench), and with their need to drastically improve the SG position, the decision to do the Mitchell trade was easy in the end. With Lauri, they lost some firepower, but replaced it with Don and a rotating cadre of dudes at the 3 to space the floor.
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They were no doubt happy with him as the 3rd seven footer I agree, but had they not been in a situation where they were "gifting" minutes to Evan Mobley, the new kid in town future all star etc. etc. I think Marky would have shown far more of what we see now , the way that Cleveland could have used him never was. Too bad for them lol we win and in the end I think those future picks we own from them will be icing not dog scraps
 
How will the Jazz guard Luka tonight? Obviously Vando will start, but you got to think he fouls out in 20 minutes guarding Luka .

Got to play THT 30 minutes and stick him on Luka
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
How will the Jazz guard Luka tonight? Obviously Vando will start, but you got to think he fouls out in 20 minutes guarding Luka .

Got to play THT 30 minutes and stick him on Luka
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I think you answered your own question.
Vando and THT


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Now we are about 30% in to the season and our defensive rating has dropped all the way to 25th in the NBA. I think this is more like what we expected at the start of the season, and I'll assume we stay a bottom 10 defensive team. Teams with bottom 5 defensive ratings rarely win more than 30 games, although we do have a top 4 offensive rating, so we might win a little more than that.
 
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