How did Exum look last night?

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Why would he start at SG when he is the natural PG of the two?

He isn't the natural of the two. He's much better at being set up to score IMO then creating his own. His handle isn't what it needs to be. I've seen enough of him since he's been back to think he can be a star sg in the league. Exum doesn't need the ball in his hands constantly to be successful and get the most out of him, Mitchell on the other hand thrives with the ball in hand creating for himself and others.


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[MDAV28]

He isn't the natural of the two. He's much better at being set up to score IMO then creating his own. His handle isn't what it needs to be. I've seen enough of him since he's been back to think he can be a star sg in the league. Exum doesn't need the ball in his hands constantly to be successful and get the most out of him, Mitchell on the other hand thrives with the ball in hand creating for himself and others.

I realize this is completely based on opinion, but I literally think the exact opposite of nearly every single thing you said. To me, his best attribute his his speed with the ball and using that to set up others. His handle is actually ok for where he "needs to be" but it can be improved and that can help him become more of a full-time PG. Although he may not "need" the ball in his hands, I 100% disagree taking it out of his hands can get the most out of him. I also disagree in the notion that putting the ball in Exum's hands for some reason lowers Mitchell's usage. I think it will do nothing but help Mitchell. We aren't choosing one to be a PG, anybody who watches the Jazz knows that the "PG position" is nearly nonexistent in the traditional sense, and the primary ball handler may rotate every single possession.

 

[elan_prodigy]

He isn't the natural of the two. He's much better at being set up to score IMO then creating his own. His handle isn't what it needs to be. I've seen enough of him since he's been back to think he can be a star sg in the league. Exum doesn't need the ball in his hands constantly to be successful and get the most out of him, Mitchell on the other hand thrives with the ball in hand creating for himself and others.


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Theres more to being a PG than fancy handles and creating scoring opportunities.

You need to have a certain feel for the game, making sure you bring players in at the right times, getting cold players going etc.

One example is how Dante has always been able to get Favors going.

 

[Flc]

Source please?

Tony Jones has said it both as a direct quote and variations of it. The most recent variation I can remember is that the Jazz FO believes that Exum's absence earlier this season had as much of an effect on win-count as Gobert's injury and that after the rise of Mitchell, it was their belief in Exum that helped to motivate the trade of Hood.

(Another reason why Exum is going to be back next year, without a doubt.)

 

[elan_prodigy]

I realize this is completely based on opinion, but I literally think the exact opposite of nearly every single thing you said. To me, his best attribute his his speed with the ball and using that to set up others. His handle is actually ok for where he "needs to be" but it can be improved and that can help him become more of a full-time PG. Although he may not "need" the ball in his hands, I 100% disagree taking it out of his hands can get the most out of him. I also disagree in the notion that putting the ball in Exum's hands for some reason lowers Mitchell's usage. I think it will do nothing but help Mitchell. We aren't choosing one to be a PG, anybody who watches the Jazz knows that the "PG position" is nearly nonexistent in the traditional sense, and the primary ball handler may rotate every single possession.

Exactly. Having X play the point will not limit any od DMs opportunities.

 

[Flc]

Exactly. Having X play the point will not limit any od DMs opportunities.

Correct. It's pretty apparent to me that Lindsey is conceiving of the future backcourt of Mitchell/Exum as a variation on Ginobli/Parker.

 

[Et tu Brute]

He isn't the natural of the two. He's much better at being set up to score IMO then creating his own. His handle isn't what it needs to be. I've seen enough of him since he's been back to think he can be a star sg in the league. Exum doesn't need the ball in his hands constantly to be successful and get the most out of him, Mitchell on the other hand thrives with the ball in hand creating for himself and others.


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What???
Exum has been assisted on only about 6 of his field goals since he has been back.
He gets his own shots - most of which are at the rim.

But more importantly, he aims to bring other people into play. That's what a traditional pg does right?

I am not saying Mitchell can't play pg btw. Just don't agree that Exum can't.

 

[fishonjazz]

Jazz FO believes that Exum's absence earlier this season had as much of an effect on win-count as Gobert's injury

If this is true then the jazz fo basically think we would have won like 65 games with a healthy X and gobert.

I would be ok with that.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

What???
Exum has been assisted on only about 6 of his field goals since he has been back.
He gets his own shots - most of which are at the rim.

But more importantly, he aims to bring other people into play. That's what a traditional pg does right?

I am not saying Mitchell can't play pg btw. Just don't agree that Exum can't.

Most of his drives he receives a pass and does a straight line drive

 

[MVP]

Tony Jones has said it both as a direct quote and variations of it. The most recent variation I can remember is that the Jazz FO believes that Exum's absence earlier this season had as much of an effect on win-count as Gobert's injury and that after the rise of Mitchell, it was their belief in Exum that helped to motivate the trade of Hood.

That is a biggest load of ********* right there. Missing Exum is the same as missing Gobert? LMAO. Who is this Tony Jones and what is his position on Jazz FO?

 

[Flc]

That is a biggest load of ********* right there. Missing Exum is the same as missing Gobert? LMAO. Who is this Tony Jones and what is his position on Jazz FO?

You're right, dude. We should definitely listen to your opinion over the Tribune's beat writer who is literally talking with sources inside the Jazz front office daily.

 

[MVP]

over the Tribune's beat writer

Dude, you said front office. And now you are quoting Tribune's writer? They can write any **** they want and does not mean anybody from front office actually said that.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

That is a biggest load of ********* right there. Missing Exum is the same as missing Gobert? LMAO. Who is this Tony Jones and what is his position on Jazz FO?

Tony is definitely the most plugged-in beat reporter we have. He's legit when he gives insight like this. He was officially saying this on the record. DL also said something similar on radio several times this season. I think it's a little bit over the top, but DL at least seems to have a big belief in Exum.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

Most of his drives he receives a pass and does a straight line drive

I don't think this is accurate at all. Exum has mostly been driving on ISO or PnR from what I've seen. He's had some off ball catch and drive but the vast majority have been him creating them himself. According to NBA.com 68% of his 2 point FG's are unassisted. If he is just catching and driving that number would be much higher. That also doesn't include FT's where I know he has had quite a few that were him creating out of PnR or iso.

 

[fishonjazz]

I don't think this is accurate at all. Exum has mostly been driving on ISO or PnR from what I've seen. He's had some off ball catch and drive but the vast majority have been him creating them himself. According to NBA.com 68% of his 2 point FG's are unassisted. If he is just catching and driving that number would be much higher. That also doesn't include FT's where I know he has had quite a few that were him creating out of PnR or iso.

I don’t think catching the ball on the three point line and driving to the rim (catch and drive) would be considered an assisted basket.

I have seen that play quite a bit. Works really really well. Kinda like the play he jazz used to run where lanterns would have the ball in the post and Burks would run baseline and get a handoff from kanter (using kanter as a screener) for the baseline basket. Seemed almost unstoppable.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I don't think this is accurate at all. Exum has mostly been driving on ISO or PnR from what I've seen. He's had some off ball catch and drive but the vast majority have been him creating them himself. According to NBA.com 68% of his 2 point FG's are unassisted. If he is just catching and driving that number would be much higher. That also doesn't include FT's where I know he has had quite a few that were him creating out of PnR or iso.

Catching a pass at or around the 3 pt line and driving for a layup doesn't constitute an assist


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[framer]

Mitchell came into the league ready to play. Exum was a project. You are an idiot.

No, the exciting thing is that Mitchell is still a project as well, its just that his ceiling is a Hall of Famer. He will get more efficient and improve defensively as he learns the league. He isn't remotely close to a finished product.

Oh, and utahjazzz is most definitely an idiot.

 

[gregbroncs]

Exactly. Having X play the point will not limit any od DMs opportunities.

Might actually increase them because Rubio is a much more ball dominant player than X is.

 

[framer]

What???
Exum has been assisted on only about 6 of his field goals since he has been back.
He gets his own shots - most of which are at the rim.

But more importantly, he aims to bring other people into play. That's what a traditional pg does right?

I am not saying Mitchell can't play pg btw. Just don't agree that Exum can't.

Just have the guy being covered by the weaker defender be the de facto point. Both Exum and Mitchell can defend either guard position. It is an incredibly good position to be in.

 

[framer]

Also, If Exum is a better play than Rubio by preseason next year, the Jazz are contenders. Rubio is a damn fine player.