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How did Exum look last night?

JAZZGASM said:
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Slow laterally, and is awful w pick and roll D. His D since the trade has looked worse to me via the eye test.

One of the streakiest shooters I have ever seen. Last year he was awful the first part of the year and looked great in the second half. I've watched him play in probably 30-40 games over the last couple seasons (I usually have 3 screens on in the evening). He can be aggravating how inconsistent he is on both sides of the floor. I watched the Bulls try to use him as a focal point moving him into the starting lineup, and watched him wilt and the offense slowly move away from him relegating him to spot up shooting, which again, has been inconsistent.

Low BBIQ. He takes bad shots. Lots of 3s way beyond the line, etc. Can't figure out defensive schemes. Gets beat by the same thing over and over...

Under contract for another year. Either give up assets or wait to get him.



If the Jazz can get him to shoot consistently (big if) he could be great sort of like Memo. The thing I've noticed about Favors, is how well he guards smaller players on the pick and roll. Not elite by any means, but he gets slow and stays in front of guys, and contests on shots. Mirotic definitely can't do that.
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Pretty fair assessment of Mirotic. But one thing he will absolutely do that Favors can't is consistently keep a big out on the perimeter.

The best defense that most teams have against Mitchell is to drop their 4 into the paint to stop his drives, or double him before he penetrates. If teams lose that ability because our 4 must be covered, then look out NBA. Because no one will stop Mitchell. So not only will Mirotic get open looks in Snyder's offense, but having him and Ingles together in the starting lineup will open things up dramatically for DM (and even Rubio).

I think the presence of Gobert also helps mitigate some of Mirotic's defensive shortcomings. If he arrived with a good attitude (likely) I think he would fit in with our system well.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
Pretty fair assessment of Mirotic. But one thing he will absolutely do that Favors can't is consistently keep a big out on the perimeter.

The best defense that most teams have against Mitchell is to drop their 4 into the paint to stop his drives, or double him before he penetrates. If teams lose that ability because our 4 must be covered, then look out NBA. Because no one will stop Mitchell. So not only will Mirotic get open looks in Snyder's offense, but having him and Ingles together in the starting lineup will open things up dramatically for DM (and even Rubio).

I think the presence of Gobert also helps mitigate some of Mirotic's defensive shortcomings. If he arrived with a good attitude (likely) I think he would fit in with our system well.
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I also don't see his streakiness as a big deal. When he gets hot we win... our defense gives us a chance that if one or two guys have a good night we are likely winning. Streakiness is terrible to deal with when it is one of your top players, but if he is a 3rd option its okay. Defenders stay close because he can get his shot off pretty quickly and is a reputation shooter. That space is really important.
 
Who would have guessed this thread would turn into a pissing contest between the haves and have nots.

The arguments have been the same since the day he was drafted, we've done this to death haven't we? No one is changing the others mind so stop squabbling already.
 
fishonjazz said:
1-6 from 3 is the biggest issue with Dante. If he can’t shoot the 3 them defenders will sag to stop the drive.

31% from 3 his rookie year.
29% his 3rd year.
16% this year.

Needs to get way better.
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Way, way too small a sample size. If he had hit one of his misses he'd be at a career-high of 33%. If he had hit another he'd be better than Jingles.
 
Hitman said:
Way, way too small a sample size. If he had hit one of his misses he'd be at a career-high of 33%. If he had hit another he'd be better than Jingles.
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The sample size I used is his entire 4 year injury riddled career.
It’s literally impossible for me to use a bigger sample size since one doesn’t exist.
 
fishonjazz said:
The sample size I used is his entire 4 year injury riddled career.
It’s literally impossible for me to use a bigger sample size since one doesn’t exist.
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Sure, but the third year in your sample is meaningless. The first 2 years are valid for comparison.

But I don't think his shot looks any better.
 
One of my best friends grew up in Melbourne and therefore I am a fan of X. It was a very cerebral and scientific process for me. Not sure why some of you are so committed to disliking him, but I hope he soon rubs your idiocy in your face. I assume that you haters hope the same.
 
He probably had the most complete performance that I've ever seen from him, in the minutes that he played against the warriors.

I do remember the 22 point game against OKC, and game 4 against GSW in the playoffs, but that was only really one half. This felt more rounded, he drove better than I've ever seen him, distributed better than anybody on the floor at the same time as him. Played solid D with maybe one really noticeable lapse.

I just remember saying that Dante is playing like a man.
 
Catchall said:
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Lol at the guys trying to say that Dante hasn't shown anything. Yeah, I realize it has been a hard road and that it would have been better if the injuries had never happened, but it's time to admit that this guy has some very useful NBA skills. He is already good and he has the potential to become very good. It's stunning that we can essentially add a player of this caliber late in the season to a team that has already over-performed by such a wide margin.
 
Hitman said:
"1-6 from 3 is the biggest issue with Dante." That's the too-small sample size.
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Oh that’s what you took from my post.
The biggest issue with Dante is his poor shooting. That’s what you should have taken from my post.
 
The main reason I haven't lost hope in him is because the Jazz haven't. Houdini can't get off the bench, even when we could use his skill set. They are still bringing Dante along, giving him more minutes, and coaching him up. And, to be objective, he is rewarding the patience. Look at the impact he had on this game when he came in. We were playing like c*** and were down by 6. He had a piece of every play that put us up by 5. Small sample though it is, it is something. The bigger evidence is that they put him in and are still trying to develop his skill set.

He is not spida, and maybe we have been spoiled by learning curve that kid has. With all the set backs Dante has had, if the coaches are still hopeful, I will be too. That said, the comparison Q used was Neto, not Mitchell, when he said to not expect too much, too soon.

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