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Is Russia Helping Trump?

fishonjazz said:
[MENTION=639]Joe Bagadonuts[/MENTION]
Do you think that each election year we should contact the government of a different country and tell them that we want them to investigate our candidates and then trust that government that they don't care who wins and will be totally fair and transparent regarding what they find about each candidate?
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Trump was making a joke/suggestion that Russia already had Hillary's emails. Do you really believe that Putin watched Trump's speech to Americans and thought, "Great, he just gave me permission to hack so now I'm gunna do it?" Anyone who doesn't know that our enemies are always spying on us is a moron. Anyone who doesn't know that we are spying on our enemies is a moron. The narrative that the wikileaks documents should have somehow been shielded from public view because they may have been uncovered by the Russians is stupid. This entire narrative is being advanced by people who are freaked out that Trump won the election and they are grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to find some way to de-legitimize him. If hacked documents had implicated Trump in some wrongdoing I do not believe for one second that the majority of the people who are complaining about this situation would care.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Trump was making a joke/suggestion that Russia already had Hillary's emails. Do you really believe that Putin watched Trump's speech to Americans and thought, "Great, he just gave me permission to hack so now I'm gunna do it?" Anyone who doesn't know that our enemies are always spying on us is a moron. Anyone who doesn't know that we are spying on our enemies is a moron. The narrative that the wikileaks documents should have somehow been shielded from public view because they may have been uncovered by the Russians is stupid. This entire narrative is being advanced by people who are freaked out that Trump won the election and they are grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to find some way to de-legitimize him. If hacked documents had implicated Trump in some wrongdoing I do not believe for one second that the majority of the people who are complaining about this situation would care.
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You didn't come close to answering my question. Horrible attempt.
 
colton said:
Not sure if serious... Jazzfanz doesn't have any autocorrect that I'm aware of. Any autocorrecting that's happening is on your end.
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That is funny cause jazzfanz can not find some pretty common words all the time that other my programs can. I keep google them cause jazzfanz says incorrect spelling (pinkish red highlight).

I think what you an [MENTION=970]babe[/MENTION] are saying is one in the same. He's system autocorrects but it is cause jazzfanz filter can not spell check.
 
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I have a tough time believing that the RNC doesn't have equally incriminating emails in their system. We just haven't seen them. Both parties have plenty of corruption and self-interest to the detriment of the American people (see North Carolina legislature for recent example). Yet I still do not want Russia hacking information and releasing what they choose about our election process.

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Just curious, who here thinks this is literally the first time a foreign power engaged in any kind of campaign (propaganda, etc.) To influence an American election? Those who believe that do you also believe that Watergate was literally the first time either side had engaged in espionage against each other? Just checking the gullibility of the site.
 
JazzGal said:
I have a tough time believing that the RNC doesn't have equally incriminating emails in their system. We just haven't seen them. Both parties have plenty of corruption and self-interest to the detriment of the American people (see North Carolina legislature for recent example). Yet I still do not want Russia hacking information and releasing what they choose about our election process.

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That's the whole point. The Russians hacked then both but only released the Democrats incriminating info while sitting on the Republican stuff. That is why they figure it was done specifically to get trump elected. I guarantee you are right.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Just curious, who here thinks this is literally the first time a foreign power engaged in any kind of campaign (propaganda, etc.) To influence an American election? Those who believe that do you also believe that Watergate was literally the first time either side had engaged in espionage against each other? Just checking the gullibility of the site.
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I dont think its the first time. I also dont think the frequency of wrong doing means we should't care about it or not try to investigate and prevent it and stop it from happening again.

In every city, state, and country women are being raped and children molested on a daily basis. Women being raped and children being molested are both still things that are concerning to me and things i believe we should be trying to prevent and stop from happening whenever we can.

This comment is not really directed at you btw, more at the poeple who are just like "who cares, everyone is spying on everyone and this stuff happens all the time. No big deal."
 
LogGrad98 said:
That's the whole point. The Russians hacked then both but only released the Democrats incriminating info while sitting on the Republican stuff. That is why they figure it was done specifically to get trump elected. I guarantee you are right.
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Julian assagne had rnc info. 3 pages worth. he wanted to release it then realized it daydream been released
 
Computer said:
Uh oh. Looks like it might not have been Russia after all.

https://https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/amp/Ex-British-ambassador-WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html
[MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION]
@fishionjazz [MENTION=3085]Red[/MENTION]

Does this mean the Democrats might be making this whole thing up? What a shocker.
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Yes, I'm sure they leaked their own emails.

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Computer said:
Uh oh. Looks like it might not have been Russia after all.

https://https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/amp/Ex-British-ambassador-WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html
[MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION]
@fishionjazz [MENTION=3085]Red[/MENTION]

Does this mean the Democrats might be making this whole thing up? What a shocker.
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I'm unsure of your agenda here. Weeks ago, you provided a list of common issues that arise during elections (eg, alternative energy, abortion, etc.) and commented as to how you lean left on most social issues but right on, I forget exactly, I think fiscal issues. This was stated, as I saw it, to prove to us that you are somehow balanced and see things objectively, with no affiliation to any party.

That was laughable. Your incessant rants on the left have gotten past the point of beating a dead horse. We get it. You hate the left.
 
Computer said:
Uh oh. Looks like it might not have been Russia after all.

https://https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/amp/Ex-British-ambassador-WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html
[MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION]
@fishionjazz [MENTION=3085]Red[/MENTION]

Does this mean the Democrats might be making this whole thing up? What a shocker.
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If they are and it never happened then it still doesn't change this discussion.

My stance would still be that I'm against other countries influencing, interfering with, or having any involvement in American elections.
I doubt anything you can say or any links you can post will change my feelings on this.

Your link is probably just fake news though anyway.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
I'm unsure of your agenda here. Weeks ago, you provided a list of common issues that arise during elections (eg, alternative energy, abortion, etc.) and commented as to how you lean left on most social issues but right on, I forget exactly, I think fiscal issues. This was stated, as I saw it, to prove to us that you are somehow balanced and see things objectively, with no affiliation to any party.

That was laughable. Your incessant rants on the left have gotten past the point of beating a dead horse. We get it. You hate the left.
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Yep.
He is nothing if not transparent, his agenda is rather obvious.
Liberals/democrats/left are wrong/bad. Conservatives/republicans/right are good and always right.
 
There is lot of emphasis in here on the small leaks. That is a small part of the hacking. Hacking voter registration is kind of a big deal. Also being ignored is the fact that the FBI has reported that they have good reason to believe the email information being released was tampered with.

Hack's going to hack but why are FBI reports now "the left?"

Top two best lil dutchy arguments or comebacks.
#1 okay
#2 death threat's

His first has come back when will the second?

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Ron Mexico said:
why are FBI reports now "the left?"
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Anything that can even remotely look like a criticism on trump, attack at his credibility or character, or anything that could be construed as being negative towards trump has to be of the left and the evil liberals!
 
Cunning Linguist said:
I'm unsure of your agenda here. Weeks ago, you provided a list of common issues that arise during elections (eg, alternative energy, abortion, etc.) and commented as to how you lean left on most social issues but right on, I forget exactly, I think fiscal issues. This was stated, as I saw it, to prove to us that you are somehow balanced and see things objectively, with no affiliation to any party.

That was laughable. Your incessant rants on the left have gotten past the point of beating a dead horse. We get it. You hate the left.
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How do yo expect a rationable, objective person to respond on a highly liberal Internet forum? Of course they will sound right wing when trying to bring some reality to the lib religion.
 
Boris said:
How do yo expect a rationable, objective person to respond on a highly liberal Internet forum? Of course they will sound right wing when trying to bring some reality to the lib religion.
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This board is not highly liberal.
 
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