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Jazz inquiring about Lou Williams (ESPN)

Just to help [MENTION=4903]elan_prodigy[/MENTION] out a bit here are their numbers for this season.
Lou: 444% from the field. 386% from 3. 884% from free throw line. 527% efg
Burks: 444% from field. 324% from 3. 682% from the line. 496% efg

Per 36 stats
Lou: 27.7 points per game. 4.7 assists. 3.4 rebounds. 1.7 steals. Gets to the line 8.8 times per game.
Burks: 16.5 points per game. 1.5 assists. 4.4 rebounds. 1.4 steals. gets to the line 5.0 times per game.

Lou is also cheaper and healthier. Burks is younger with more potential though. Both have some combo guard potential (burks more of a 2... lou is more of combo guard) I like burks better and am still the biggest burks homer on jazzfanz i bet but right now i think lou gives the jazz more of what they need and is currently the better player.

Plus you can keep both, see how it goes (both are pretty cheap) and then decide to trade one later.
 
fishonjazz said:
Try looking at lou's stats this year vs burks this year. This is the year that is happening right now so their play from 3, 4, 5, years ago really doesn't matter. Like if we compare career numbers for dirk and hayward dirks numbers would be better but I wouldn't trade hayward for dirk right now.

Also what stats are you even showing? I thought it was career stats but the ones you put for Lou have his field goal%, 3 point%, and free throw% all a little lower than the actual numbers are listed on basketball reference.com and the 3 pt% and free throw% you listed for burks are both higher than the actual numbers listed on basketball reference.com
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So, you want me to compare Lou's best year to AB coming off the better part of 2 years out?

Right... I'll get right on that.
 
Trade the GS pick and maybe one of our many 2nd rounders for Lou then trade Burks and Favors for Millsap.

We have an excellent PF/C pairing, bench firepower with Lou the rest of this year and next, and financial flexibility long term without the debate over often injured Burks and Favors.

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elan_prodigy said:
So, you want me to compare Lou's best year to AB coming off the better part of 2 years out?

Right... I'll get right on that.
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No, just compare the players as they are now cause that is all that really matters. No cherry picking here. You don't need to do anything though since I already did it for you.
How they played last year or the year before or the year before doesn't matter does it? How does something a guy did years ago help us for our game on friday?
 
Though I have changed my mind on getting lou.
I think he is better than anything else we have for that role (scorer off the bench) and I think he makes the jazz better but not contenders or anything and I want Dante to get all the backup minutes at point guard and burks is still my favorite player and I want him to get minutes since I get more enjoyment from watching him play than anyone else.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
fishonjazz said:
Lou is cheap to doe. And you don't have to hope he pans out.[/QUOTE

Experts are saying this is the deepest draft in years as in 60 players deep. We are talking 2 players at my best guess at 2.5-3 million over the next four years. I'll take my chances.
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Doesn't change that lou is cheap and has already panned out into a good nba player though.
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Would be nice to know what hill is gonna do next summer.
If hill left I would rather have exum and lou at pg than exum and mack/neto.

If hill sticks around then I would like to have burks and X get the minutes rather than lou.
 
Is there truth at this one? I remember i look video of Lou little bow wow and they can be friends and rap songs. I like he can shoot to.
 
fishonjazz said:
Thee jazz fan said:
Doesn't change that lou is cheap and has already panned out into a good nba player though.
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My point is that Lou doesn't move the needle he's not a position of need, takes time away from Burks Exum and Ingles. Like I said this draft is supposed to be 60 deep. I'll gladly roll the dice on getting another Gobert or Hood or both, especially since Lou doesn't really move the needle, and again, not a position of need.
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Thee jazz fan said:
fishonjazz said:
My point is that Lou doesn't move the needle he's not a position of need, takes time away from Burks Exum and Ingles. Like I said this draft is supposed to be 60 deep. I'll gladly roll the dice on getting another Gobert or Hood or both, especially since Lou doesn't really move the needle, and again, not a position of need.
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Lou Williams would give the Jazz a much needed offensive boost. George Hill and Rodney Hood have been glass, creating an offensive black hole in their offense. Lou Williams is not only a perfect insurance policy for George Hill, but a much needed scorer. Dude is averaging 19 points in just 24 minutes a game. He definitely moved the needle. You can move Exum over to a wing position and have a Lou/Exum/Burks/Ingles/Lyles small and athletic second unit.
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Los Angeles Lakers Rumors: Utah Jazz, Washington Wizards In On Lou Williams

Los Angeles Lakers Rumors: Things are starting to heat up on the Lou Williams market as the Washington Wizards and Utah Jazz are both interested ...

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Thee jazz fan said:
fishonjazz said:
My point is that Lou doesn't move the needle he's not a position of need, takes time away from Burks Exum and Ingles. Like I said this draft is supposed to be 60 deep. I'll gladly roll the dice on getting another Gobert or Hood or both, especially since Lou doesn't really move the needle, and again, not a position of need.
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True. I agree.
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Crocodile Dante said:
Terrance Jones and Lou Williams

Sorry fish

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I should have known.
I like both those guys but i've changed my thinking on lou due to the logjam and the fact that i really like the guys we already have at lou's positions. Would love to get jones though.
 
fishonjazz said:
Though I have changed my mind on getting lou.
I think he is better than anything else we have for that role (scorer off the bench) and I think he makes the jazz better but not contenders or anything and I want Dante to get all the backup minutes at point guard and burks is still my favorite player and I want him to get minutes since I get more enjoyment from watching him play than anyone else.
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selfish
 
fishonjazz said:
I should have known.
I like both those guys but i've changed my thinking on lou due to the logjam and the fact that i really like the guys we already have at lou's positions. Would love to get jones though.
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I agree and I think we could get better guys then Lou for either hood or Burks.

I do like Terrance Jones though he is an upgrade to diaw by a mile and an upgrade to Lyles right now.

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