Marc Stein: Jazz-Warriors discuss pre-Lottery trade (Source says trade "likely")

[BluesRocker]

freak, they prob wouldn't bother to tank if we get their pick top 3 protected, so a 4-7 seems unlikely

run

 

[northeast]

then again, it might be worth a shot, what the hey, but I'd lean to holding out for zero protection, whateva

 

[BluesRocker]

run

You changed your quote.

Haha

 

[BluesRocker]

We just cant do it because they cant offer anything that wouldnt make us be kicking ourselves later if the pick slid.

A screw up here on a gamble could end up being an all time fail.

 

[GVC]

Acquiring assets for nothing seems pretty good to me.

 

[The Thriller]

Wasn't kobe the one who threaten to go over seas if he wasn't drafted by the lakers? If you look on different web sites as far as kendall Marshall you can see the what he is being compared to. https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kendall-Marshall-5095/ for instance says his best case is Andre Miller and worst is Mark Jackson. We will still have our pick next year. It isn't like this year we are loosing out on something we already have.

Thanks for proving my point!

Mark Jackson is the #3 assists leader in league history. He is likely to be voted into the Hall of Fame at some point.

Andre Miller is a 12 year vet who has had a long and very successful career (the greatest Ute ever?). He is currently #10 all time in assists.

If Marshall is either one of those players the Jazz will have found that franchise PG for the next 10+ years and will be competing in the WC for a very long time.

Just for fun, Andre Miller has over 10k assists.... Devin Harris has a little over 2,700 career assists... If you were to add all 3 Jazz PG (Harris, Tinsley, Watson) career assists together, they still would fall short of Andre Miller's career assists total.

 

[freakazoid]

freak, they prob wouldn't bother to tank if we get their pick top 3 protected, so a 4-7 seems unlikely

There's no probablies about it. If they're not in the playoff hunt for any reason, they will try to keep their pick. It isn't even a question.

 

[fishonjazz]

Really? A team with its 2 best players who have had enormous injury issues? No cap flexibility? No depth whatsoever? When I look at them, I see a team that would need a lot to go right to finish with the 10th worst record in the league.

Actually billy i believe that the warriors could have finished with the 10th worst record in the league THIS year if they would have tried.... and that is without curry, bogut, and david lee for the stretch run.
In other words... you seem to think that adding Lee, Bogut and Curry to the team somehow makes them worse apparently.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Really? A team with its 2 best players who have had enormous injury issues? No cap flexibility? No depth whatsoever? When I look at them, I see a team that would need a lot to go right to finish with the 10th worst record in the league.

Uh, yes. They were the 8th worst team basically without Curry and Bogut for much of that time. I doubt they miss more time than last year. Add in the 7th pick (or whichever they were to land) and I see them winning at least 3-4 more games.

 

[northeast]

There's no probablies about it. If they're not in the playoff hunt for any reason, they will try to keep their pick. It isn't even a question.

Incorrect, because if they don't get the pick if it is 4-7, then they don't have a lot of incentive to tank to get 4-7.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Could we have made this any more complicated than we have? lol

This thread makes me surprised that GM's don't make their decisions after conducting message board surveys. /sarcasm

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

I think the simplest way to make a reasonable offer that we all want is one where it guarantees us Tony Mitchell next year. If that stipulation is worked into the trade, we made out like bandits.

 

[Hantlers]

Thanks for proving my point!

Mark Jackson is the #3 assists leader in league history. He is likely to be voted into the Hall of Fame at some point.

Andre Miller is a 12 year vet who has had a long and very successful career (the greatest Ute ever?). He is currently #10 all time in assists.

If Marshall is either one of those players the Jazz will have found that franchise PG for the next 10+ years and will be competing in the WC for a very long time.

Just for fun, Andre Miller has over 10k assists.... Devin Harris has a little over 2,700 career assists... If you were to add all 3 Jazz PG (Harris, Tinsley, Watson) career assists together, they still would fall short of Andre Miller's career assists total.

We should definitely always listen to the Draftexpress Best/Worst case scenarios because they are always right.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I think the simplest way to make a reasonable offer that we all want is one where it guarantees us Tony Mitchell next year. If that stipulation is worked into the trade, we made out like bandits.

Okay, can we call /thread now?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Okay, can we call /thread now?

Yep.

 

[Fishsticks]

Actually billy i believe that the warriors could have finished with the 10th worst record in the league THIS year if they would have tried.... and that is without curry, bogut, and david lee for the stretch run.
In other words... you seem to think that adding Lee, Bogut and Curry to the team somehow makes them worse apparently.

Ummmm dont forget that they have to deal with the other 13 good teams in the west. Making the playoffs is not that easy. Alot of talented teams and GS is not even in the meddling stages of those if healthy.

 

[Forever Jazz]

Could we have made this any more complicated than we have? lol

This thread makes me surprised that GM's don't make their decisions after conducting message board surveys. /sarcasm

Between this thread and the Warriors fan board saying "If we get the pick this year, we'll be giving the Jazz a pick between 15 and 25 next year" it's no wonder why message boards have the reputation they do...But obviously I'm still reading...

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

Thanks for proving my point!

Mark Jackson is the #3 assists leader in league history. He is likely to be voted into the Hall of Fame at some point.

Andre Miller is a 12 year vet who has had a long and very successful career (the greatest Ute ever?). He is currently #10 all time in assists.

If Marshall is either one of those players the Jazz will have found that franchise PG for the next 10+ years and will be competing in the WC for a very long time.

Just for fun, Andre Miller has over 10k assists.... Devin Harris has a little over 2,700 career assists... If you were to add all 3 Jazz PG (Harris, Tinsley, Watson) career assists together, they still would fall short of Andre Miller's career assists total.

No way Mark Jackson should be in the Hall of Fame. He was only on the All-Star team ONCE! If he wasn't even voted as one of the top 3 or 4 players at his his position more than once in his 16 year career he is absolutely not a HoFer.

 

[shadler]

Thanks for proving my point!

Mark Jackson is the #3 assists leader in league history. He is likely to be voted into the Hall of Fame at some point.

Andre Miller is a 12 year vet who has had a long and very successful career (the greatest Ute ever?). He is currently #10 all time in assists.

If Marshall is either one of those players the Jazz will have found that franchise PG for the next 10+ years and will be competing in the WC for a very long time.

Just for fun, Andre Miller has over 10k assists.... Devin Harris has a little over 2,700 career assists... If you were to add all 3 Jazz PG (Harris, Tinsley, Watson) career assists together, they still would fall short of Andre Miller's career assists total.

Good that you think that way. If Andre was a great player why did he play for so many teams and always on the verge of being traded? And Miller is one of my favorite players but I never looked at him as a great player. Not like a lot of people on this board who thought jimmer was the next best thing to replace dwill in their fantasy land. You have your view on the draft and I have mine. We can get a good pg in the draft but you talking about less then 28% of getting the 8th pick to begin with and then more then likely that pick ends up being a bust. If you think Jackson and Andre Miller are FRANCHISE players then that is your thinking. With or without the trade the jazz are more then likely not going to have a pick to begin with and there is nothing more I would love to see then gs loose that pick. But on the other hand rather then loosing it you can get two draft picks next year and two this year. You also have a lot of different options of doing trades in the draft. Or the jazz could go and try and trade for another young up and coming player from another team. They will have more options to work with.

 

[infection]

Good that you think that way. If Andre was a great player why did he play for so many teams and always on the verge of being traded? And Miller is one of my favorite players but I never looked at him as a great player. Not like a lot of people on this board who thought jimmer was the next best thing to replace dwill in their fantasy land. You have your view on the draft and I have mine. We can get a good pg in the draft but you talking about less then 28% of getting the 8th pick to begin with and then more then likely that pick ends up being a bust. If you think Jackson and Andre Miller are FRANCHISE players then that is your thinking. With or without the trade the jazz are more then likely not going to have a pick to begin with and there is nothing more I would love to see then gs loose that pick. But on the other hand rather then loosing it you can get two draft picks next year and two this year. You also have a lot of different options of doing trades in the draft. Or the jazz could go and try and trade for another young up and coming player from another team. They will have more options to work with.

Miller and Jackson may not have been franchise players but if we landed someone of their caliber it'd sure go a long way in cementing our team. Not to say that will or will not happen through this draft, but scoffing at someone who would be in their talent level is ludicrous.