Reading the Tea Leaves
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That's selling Enes waaaay too short. He's already better than Al on PnR D.
I think he'll be a better defender than Griffin and Love, while being a very reliable 18+ pts/game scorer.
green
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I don't know who will still be here between Favors and Kanter. BUT, I'm not choosing right now either. I LOVE some aspects of Favors game and HATE others. Same with Kanter.
In fact, if I had to choose right this second, I think I take Favors because I think with the right coach, he could be a beast. I'm still a little worried about Kanter's defense and rebounding. That being said, I'm not picking now because I don't have to. I want to see how both play out.
Especially if we can get a coach like Sloan. I think Favors would be an all star with Sloan as his coach. I think Favors needs that type of personality to get him motivated.
Here is what I think happens:
I do think Burke, Burks, Kanter, Rush, Gobert and Favors stays. I'm 50/50 on Hayward. I really, really like him at a certain price point. I DON'T like him at all at George money. I let him walk if someone tosses that at him.
Hayward's points by quarter last night:
1st - 4 pts (30-16 Toronto)
2nd - 2 pts (62-36 Toronto)
3rd - 13 pts (60-91 Toronto)
4th - 6 pts (115-91 Toronto)
Hayward is a good complementary player, but at the beginning of games, he doesn't exist. Everyone complains that the Jazz are playing 4 on 5 because of the PG, but Hayward has not shown up ONCE when we needed him to. Anyone can put up 19 points when you are down 30. Put up 19 when it is the first quarter and Toronto goes on a 6-0 run. That is a max guy.
Someone who puts up 19 when you are down 30 is a 8 mill per guy.
Also, everyone talks about how much Corbin sucks as a coach, but when will one of Kanter, Favors, Hayward step up and OWN this team? When will they take control of the game early? That is what a max guy does. And right now, we don't have that guy.
In fact, if I had to choose right this second, I think I take Favors because I think with the right coach, he could be a beast. I'm still a little worried about Kanter's defense and rebounding. That being said, I'm not picking now because I don't have to. I want to see how both play out.
Especially if we can get a coach like Sloan. I think Favors would be an all star with Sloan as his coach. I think Favors needs that type of personality to get him motivated.
Here is what I think happens:
I do think Burke, Burks, Kanter, Rush, Gobert and Favors stays. I'm 50/50 on Hayward. I really, really like him at a certain price point. I DON'T like him at all at George money. I let him walk if someone tosses that at him.
Hayward's points by quarter last night:
1st - 4 pts (30-16 Toronto)
2nd - 2 pts (62-36 Toronto)
3rd - 13 pts (60-91 Toronto)
4th - 6 pts (115-91 Toronto)
Hayward is a good complementary player, but at the beginning of games, he doesn't exist. Everyone complains that the Jazz are playing 4 on 5 because of the PG, but Hayward has not shown up ONCE when we needed him to. Anyone can put up 19 points when you are down 30. Put up 19 when it is the first quarter and Toronto goes on a 6-0 run. That is a max guy.
Someone who puts up 19 when you are down 30 is a 8 mill per guy.
Also, everyone talks about how much Corbin sucks as a coach, but when will one of Kanter, Favors, Hayward step up and OWN this team? When will they take control of the game early? That is what a max guy does. And right now, we don't have that guy.
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green
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I do think Burke, Burks, Kanter, Rush, Gobert and Favors stays. I'm 50/50 on Hayward. I really, really like him at a certain price point. I DON'T like him at all at George money. I let him walk if someone tosses that at him.
Back to that point up there.
We have a new coach next year. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jazz move Burks and their second pick for a vet pg, or go after Collison. Also, I think they bring in another backup big man and a new coach. I think we look like this:
Burke/Collison or Hinrich
Hayward/Burks
Parker or Wiggins/Rush or Williams
Favors/Humphries
Kaner/Gobert
And a new coach, hopefully Thibodeau. Thibodeau on this team would turn Favors into an All-Star. Could you imagine the way this team could run with a lineup of:
Burke
Hayward
Wiggins/Parker
Humphries
Favors
Or
Burke
Burks
Hayward
Parker
Favors
That lineup would be good defensively, have an amazing offensive scorer, players who could run and shoot. That lineup is a matchup nightmare. Again, it's early and I've only see Parker play one game, but his offense makes people wonder if I'm happy to see them or if I have a geoduck in my pocket.
Back to that point up there.
We have a new coach next year. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jazz move Burks and their second pick for a vet pg, or go after Collison. Also, I think they bring in another backup big man and a new coach. I think we look like this:
Burke/Collison or Hinrich
Hayward/Burks
Parker or Wiggins/Rush or Williams
Favors/Humphries
Kaner/Gobert
And a new coach, hopefully Thibodeau. Thibodeau on this team would turn Favors into an All-Star. Could you imagine the way this team could run with a lineup of:
Burke
Hayward
Wiggins/Parker
Humphries
Favors
Or
Burke
Burks
Hayward
Parker
Favors
That lineup would be good defensively, have an amazing offensive scorer, players who could run and shoot. That lineup is a matchup nightmare. Again, it's early and I've only see Parker play one game, but his offense makes people wonder if I'm happy to see them or if I have a geoduck in my pocket.
Bawse Dawg
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Thibodeau??????
green
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Yeah, there are rumblings that the players don't like Thibs. And if they stay around .500, I could see him gone come Christmas Eve-ish. They already fired his assistant coach.
I think the Jazz wait to see what happens there before they do anything with Corbin.
I don't know. Jeff Teague? Eric Bledsoe?
Had my wife read this thread to me as we crossed Germany today on Autobahn 6. It was quite hilarious to hear her say,
"PKM now replies to Sexual Favors saying....wait he's allowed to have that name on the message board"?
BTW thankful for the new Jazzfanz AP. I needed my Jazz fix, and we had a 4 hour plus drive in the rain across Germany.
"PKM now replies to Sexual Favors saying....wait he's allowed to have that name on the message board"?
BTW thankful for the new Jazzfanz AP. I needed my Jazz fix, and we had a 4 hour plus drive in the rain across Germany.
What's wrong with having the name PKM?