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Duck Rodgers said:
Stanford got out the Christmas wrapping paper early, put bows in their hair, and gave Utah a gift on those last two plays. How does throwing to the Endzone twice on 3 and 2 and 4th and 2 from the 6 with plenty of time left in the game make any sense? Just man up and play smashmouth football like you're supposed to. Bunch of string pullers.

Good win though.
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Why can't you just eat your crow and say this was an excellent win? Stating the bolded makes you look like a jerk. Was the play calling to end the game questionable under the circumstances? Sure. There is no guarantee that they would have gotten the first down if they ran the ball. It was IMO more likely, but they didn't do that and the final score had Utah winning 27-21. If you wouldn't have made ridiculous claims and then went on to call the final outcome a gift, then maybe you wouldn't be getting hammered on here like you are.
 
If Stanford just gets the ball to Ty Montgomery they win fairly handily. Utah had no answer.

BTW, he's considered a sure-fire NFL prospect, right?
 
NUMBERICA said:
If Stanford just gets the ball to Ty Montgomery they win fairly handily. Utah had no answer.

BTW, he's considered a sure-fire NFL prospect, right?
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You should work for ESPN.

I also think if Stanford would have put more points up than the Utes they would have won.
 
Unless you're a Tree fan, how can you not feel awesome about yesterday's win?

Even thee biggest cougar/aggie homers have gotta love seeing the #5 go down to a local school. At the very least, it shakes up what has been a pretty yawn no upsets college football season. You need to have respect for Whit and how they battled back after The Cardinal came out and scored easily. I think both schools wished they had Travis Wilson right now. Poole is a stud. I have no idea why he wasn't given the keys to the car earlier. And you gotta admire how that horrible defense has since the Oregon St, game vastly improved.

I love to stir the pot with lil brother fans. Because, that's what we all do.

But in all reality, that program which looked like it was headed to a possible new coaching regime is really right there in the fight for a PAC-12 championship.

The tea party drinking Independents, who have convinced themselves that Independence is better than being in a conference championship will point out to upcoming games against Boise St, Wisc, and ND. But, I, like most football fans would rather have us in the PAC or BIG 12. You play a division, and see who can beat up on who. You can even have a few slip ups along the way. It's not like one loss to Virginia is the season. The utes, very easily could end up in the Rose Bowl despite starting 0-2 in conference. And even if they don't, the bragging rights and respect earned by taking down the Cardinal makes this season special. Meanwhile, is anyone even talking about beating Texas anymore?

The Utes are quickly establishing new rivalries and it's all good. Regardless of what happens up in Eugene, These upcoming games against USC and the Arizona schools are going to be awesome.
 
No one has mentioned this...

But how awesome is it to have a QB that can take big hits and still get up off the turf? Travis took a few pops yesterday but still got up. Had Wynn been in the pocket:

A. He wouldn't have dared stay in the pocket long enough to make plays.
B. He would have been crushed. Especially by that 6 foot 4 monster linebacker/DE that popped Wilson good on one QB run.

It's amazing what can happen when a talented QB can play more than just a few games per season.
 
trigg3r said:
Why can't you just eat your crow and say this was an excellent win? Stating the bolded makes you look like a jerk. Was the play calling to end the game questionable under the circumstances? Sure. There is no guarantee that they would have gotten the first down if they ran the ball. It was IMO more likely, but they didn't do that and the final score had Utah winning 27-21. If you wouldn't have made ridiculous claims and then went on to call the final outcome a gift, then maybe you wouldn't be getting hammered on here like you are.
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Just remember, he picked Stanford to win by 28 earlier in the thread. Regardless of their play calling, by his estimation it was never going to be that close. He's all over the map anytime he opens his mouth.
 
NUMBERICA said:
If Stanford just gets the ball to Ty Montgomery they win fairly handily. Utah had no answer.

BTW, he's considered a sure-fire NFL prospect, right?
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I'm sorry, but this is such a dumb post. And if Dres catches that ball, Utah wins easily. Or is Stanford stops Dres, Bubba Poole, or Orchard, they win easily. Or if Utah stops Ty they win easily. Or if they don't kick to Ty, they win easily.

What if, what if, what if.

Utah did, Stanford didn't. Utah won, and did so by controlling most of the first, second and third quarters. This team is at the bottom of the hill of its potential, and is climbing fast. Shaw was man enough to admit it, as did Mora after the UCLA game. Whitt is building something special here, and its a great time to be a Ute.
 
jazzman12 said:
Just remember, he picked Stanford to win by 28 earlier in the thread. Regardless of their play calling, by his estimation it was never going to be that close. He's all over the map anytime he opens his mouth.
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I remember it. I think he would be best served by just admitting he was wrong and moving on. He compounded the problem when he acted like Stanford gave the Utes a gift and Utah didn't deserve to win. That to me is just silly.
 
I think one can go to "what ifs" throughout the whole game.

What if Utah would have converted a few more times on 3rd down? What if they would have scored another TD than FG?

A lot can be said. I will say this, Stanford panicked a lil bit towards the end as they got away from who they truly are. That 3rd and 2 pass call was bad. They had enough time to go with one of their power sets. They could have brought in a tackle/TE to be a fullback. In hindsight, they should have ran the ball twice to pick up the first down. If Utah stops them twice then so be it. But that's hindsight. That's also why we play the game. Sometimes, teams matchup well, play hard, and upsets happen.

Had they scored everyone would be talking about how brilliant of a call it was to pass rather than run.

However, that's Stanford's fault. The mere fact that the game was THAT close despite all the injuries Utah had on offense shows how great of an upset this was.

Rather than look for ways Stanford "lost" this game. Why not look for ways Utah won it?

My goodness. They played a near perfect game. Rather than pack it in and play scared, like most do against top 5 teams, they came out and fought hard. After suffering a few setbacks early on, they came back, took the lead, took commanding lead, and then held on at the end.

One last thing, doesn't Utah's success somewhat solidify our programs? If Utah can compete against the PAC, then shouldn't that motivate both The Aggies and Cougars to get better? Utah St had its moments and Had BYU had a forwarding passing game they would have been more competitive. If you can compete with Utah that means you can compete with some of the better teams in the entire region.

A successful Utah/Utah st/BYU program only makes our state more recognize able and respected. It's up to Utah St and BYU to take advantage
 
NUMBERICA said:
I honestly cared more just about getting a conference win than beating #5. It's a hell of a bonus, but I am an idiot and think that the conference is in play still/now. Utah just stays in games and they continue to get noticeably better every game (especially in the play-calling and in the secondary). If they can beat the toast of college football at their own game, I'll believe that the chance is still there and that maybe they even win an incredibly competitive conference.
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The conference championship is worth dreaming of, but it would be extremely difficult to pull off. If they win out they'd still need lots of help overcoming UCLA. UCLA's next two games are at Stanford and at Oregon so there is reason for hope, but is the tiebreaker head to head? If so then even if UCLA lost both of those they'd need to lose one more. Assuming head to head is the tiebreaker, the Utes control their own destiny against every other team, but that's only if they win everything (including at Oregon). I sure wish they'd pulled out either the OSU or UCLA game.

If they accomplish all of that their reward would most likely be a rematch with Oregon. Brutal! But it sure is fun being a member of the PAC-12, and especially being a competitive team.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
The conference championship is worth dreaming of, but it would be extremely difficult to pull off. If they win out they'd still need lots of help overcoming UCLA. UCLA's next two games are at Stanford and at Oregon so there is reason for hope, but is the tiebreaker head to head? If so then even if UCLA lost both of those they'd need to lose one more. Assuming head to head is the tiebreaker, the Utes control their own destiny against every other team, but that's only if they win everything (including at Oregon). I sure wish they'd pulled out either the OSU or UCLA game.

If they accomplish all of that their reward would most likely be a rematch with Oregon. Brutal! But it sure is fun being a member of the PAC-12, and especially being a competitive team.
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The mere fact that we are even conversing about this shows how cool being in a conference really is. And how much the Utes have improved.

That's what makes playing in a conference so much fun. You pull off an upset or two (like against Stanford) and things get real dramatic real fast. The Utes will probably lose by 3+ TDs against Oregon. But who cares? Up until then, there's some drama. And even after, the season isn't over. What happens if Mariotta goes down to injury? What happens if USC upsets UCLA? What happens if the Utes dump the AZ schools, beat USC, and beat their new rival, Colorado? So many scenarios to consider. And even if "the worst case" plays out, you're probably still headed to a bowl game.

I say sit back, talk smack, dream about dumping Oregon and going to the Rose Bowl, and enjoy the rest of the ride. That's what makes college football so interesting. It's not like the NBA or MLB. Or even NFL. One game can change everything (unless you're in the SEC).
 
I will say this... The AZ schools aren't as good as I thought they were. Especially AZ St, which has the talent to compete with anybody in the country. Yet, they have the mental fortitude to lose to anybody in the country.

Meanwhile... I don't think USC is as bad as originally thought. Especially at the QB position. I think they just wanted to lose enough games to get their HC fired. I actually see the game @ USC tougher than the game against AZ St.

Don't get me wrong, a win in Tuscon is gonna be really tough. But had USC played this well at the start of the season they'd probably be undefeated and looking at a head on collision against Oregon for the PAC-12 Championship.
 
The Thriller said:
The mere fact that we are even conversing about this shows how cool being in a conference really is. And how much the Utes have improved.

That's what makes playing in a conference so much fun. You pull off an upset or two (like against Stanford) and things get real dramatic real fast. The Utes will probably lose by 3+ TDs against Oregon. But who cares? Up until then, there's some drama. And even after, the season isn't over. What happens if Mariotta goes down to injury? What happens if USC upsets UCLA? What happens if the Utes dump the AZ schools, beat USC, and beat their new rival, Colorado? So many scenarios to consider. And even if "the worst case" plays out, you're probably still headed to a bowl game.

I say sit back, talk smack, dream about dumping Oregon and going to the Rose Bowl, and enjoy the rest of the ride. That's what makes college football so interesting. It's not like the NBA or MLB. Or even NFL. One game can change everything (unless you're in the SEC).
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Who are you and what have you done with Thriller?
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
The conference championship is worth dreaming of, but it would be extremely difficult to pull off. If they win out they'd still need lots of help overcoming UCLA. UCLA's next two games are at Stanford and at Oregon so there is reason for hope, but is the tiebreaker head to head? If so then even if UCLA lost both of those they'd need to lose one more. Assuming head to head is the tiebreaker, the Utes control their own destiny against every other team, but that's only if they win everything (including at Oregon). I sure wish they'd pulled out either the OSU or UCLA game.
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Food for thought: after seeing the UCLA/Utah game, either UCLA is just not good enough to worry that they'll win the division or Utah is truly a force to be reckoned with. Give the Utes a healthy Travis Wilson and receivers that don't cough up 4 interceptions and the Utes win that game easily. Easily.
 
Couple of cool random things from the game, Shaky Smithson stopped by our tailgate (for like a minute, but still). Also, when Ty Montgomery had that kickoff return in the 1st qtr I took the can of beer I had snuck into the game to pour on the Stanford QB's mom and decided to go chug it in the bathroom instead. Stanford didn't score again until the 4th qtr.

#magicbeer


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NUMBERICA said:
Food for thought: after seeing the UCLA/Utah game, either UCLA is just not good enough to worry that they'll win the division or Utah is truly a force to be reckoned with. Give the Utes a healthy Travis Wilson and receivers that don't cough up 4 interceptions and the Utes win that game easily. Easily.
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Utah is a sleeping giant. Shaw talked about it after the game. Utah is big, physical and fast. They are just young. Do you realize that the whole offense comes back sans two OL? Plus they get Scott back? That is HUGE. Utah had 6 players that got legit cracks in the NFL off last year's team. They have another 5-6 on the defense right now. They are just young. Next year, Utah will also still have Rowe, have Blechen back, Gionny Paul will be able to play, hopefully Orchard comes back, Dimick looks like a beast, the corners will all be very experienced. Utah is lining to have an very good season this year (if they can beat Arizona, they could get 7-9 wins) and an amazing season next year.

UCLA is legit, and what Utah did to UCLA was legit. If that game was in clean weather, Utah beats UCLA.

Exciting times to be a Utah fan. We have a great coach, great assistant coaches, very, very good QB, and potential through the roof. Next year, Hundley, Marriota, Price, Mannion, Taylor are all gone. Utah HAS to get to a bowl game to get ready for next year. The next big step is Arizona. We have to win that game.
 
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