I'm not sure that's specific to Miami. You could probably put a DLeague team in the east and they'd stand a reasonable chance of making it to the finals.
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I'm not sure that's specific to Miami. You could probably put a DLeague team in the east and they'd stand a reasonable chance of making it to the finals.
Grandpa Jazz
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I never said the tanking idea was age specific. My rants against, draw many who disagree with me but also a surprising number who "like" my posts though they would never say so on the board. Last two sentences i agree with completely. Question is why! I think it likely that bean counter Greg Miller did this. He doesn't have his father's vision. Or his competitive spirit when it comes to sports.
JimLes
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Why not just dress three players and forfeit all those games? Even better, don't even fly out for the away ones. Save money and gas.
You don't really believe there's any integrity left to maintain in sports, do you?
The Fresh Prince
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This isnt 2003. Melvin Ely is in the D League. Thats slightly an overstatement.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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There's no reason to trade Burks period! I could see the the Cavs do this with out Burks. You don't trade a 22 year old that has Burks potential that hasn't had a chance to start. I bet OKC is kicking themselves for trading Harden. I'm not saying Burks will be as good, but Burks is shooting better and has a lot of Harden in his game. I don't think anyone invisioned Harden being this good with Houston.
The Fresh Prince
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You crazy.
This, plus... the b2b brothers.. Burke 2 Burks is starting to become a household connection.
Sigh.
This post got a negative reputation, but so far, no one has bothered with an answer.
Because Dan Gilbert is a racist and this will rid him of at least one big black man from off the payroll.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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It should be obvious, but they do it for the cap space, and to be rid of their baggage Bynum.
Coach Ellis
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I doubt they trade him. Most likely they cut Bynam to avoid having to guarantee most of his deal. No reason to give up assets when he'll be available soon regardless. That said, I don't want Andrew Bynam anywhere near Kanter, Favors or Gobert. The team can tank without poisoning the locker room. Just deal Marvin and Jefferson and the tank is back on strong IMO.
gregbroncs
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I am really starting to think the value of this draft is really overhyped. Like astronomically overhyped. How often do all of the top picks translate to the next level? How many busts are there in the top 3 picks. I'll bet at least one of those guys disappoints. Getting a top 3 pick does not guarantee we will win in the future.
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And Hayward only leaves if the Jazz let him.
Grandpa Jazz
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One Brow- Ellis269 has your answer. If logic says
Then conversely getting assets, instead of just letting him go and getting nothing is a better idea. Who may i ask would offer more than this offer (Jazzfanz offer)
and the answer comes back nobody. So why would the Jazz give up anything to get a guy who has disappointed everyone he has played for and now seems to not even want to be a player? This whole idea is motivated by a desire to "tank" and we are not tanking hard enough (29 out of 30 teams at present) that we should trade everybody and anybody to give us a shot at #1 pick. If the cupboard is totally bare when the new messiah arrives seems not to bother the tankers.
The Fresh Prince
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Bynam is cancer d00dz.
Grandpa Jazz
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Elton Brand, Kenyon Martin, Kwame Brown, Yao Ming, LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Andrew Bogut, Andrea Bargnani, Greg Oden, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Anthony Bennett.
The last 15 #1 picks in the NBA draft. How many of these players have driven their teams to an NBA championship. That's right. You can point to one name. If you can't see the folly in tanking to get that pick then there is nothing more to say.
The last 15 #1 picks in the NBA draft. How many of these players have driven their teams to an NBA championship. That's right. You can point to one name. If you can't see the folly in tanking to get that pick then there is nothing more to say.
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The only thing #1 gets you is the chance to chose anyone that you want. There's no such thing as a historical precedent in this regard.
Grandpa Jazz
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"He who disregards history is doomed to repeat it". One of the great axioms of history and one i believe in. You are a true believer infection and sometimes that does work. Otherwise known as dumb luck.
What you're arguing is that there must be some type of negative mystical magic associated with the #1 selection. As I've stated in another thread, looking at who's been selected at #1 is not as relevant as looking at who's been selected at #1 and below. As you follow that same principle through all the positions, you find that significant historical talent drops of with each progressing number.
Just because Miami has never beat Denver in Denver on December 30 when it's a Monday in a year that a mullato is president does not really tell anything about tonight's game. What does, however, is current context.