What Would Have to be Included in a LaVine Trade to Make it Acceptable?

[LogGrad98]

A bunch of first round picks and no Levine.

 

[Flc]

So I just gotta say, I'm super skeptical of this rumor. Might happen. I don't hate the trade if what's going out is John Collins and Jordan Clarkson.

But Philadelphia's front office already told their local sports reporters that they're not interested in LaVine, haven't been interested in LaVine. And meanwhile you have the local Chicago reporters saying that the trade market is deepening for LaVine and Utah and Philly are heavily involved.

If I were a GM wanting to drive up interest on a player who, due to his salary isn't developing much interest on the trade market, I'd leak that the team with the most draft assets in the league was interested too. Guess we'll see. I wouldn't be shocked either way, but I don't see Ainge giving up anything more than a second here along with the outgoing salary.

Yeah, going to take my victory lap. View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10125690-zach-lavine-trade-rumors-jazzs-interest-in-bulls-star-dismissed-by-nba-insider

 

[jom2003]

JC gotta go. There's simply not enough minutes for anotber non-defender in what's already the worst defensive backcourt in the league.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Looks like Chicago is willing to put a first rounder in now.

Honestly, I think about Clarkson/Collins for LaVine for that. Only reason I see to say no is if you are actually concerned about winning too much with LaaVine.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Why trade for Lavine at all?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why trade for Lavine at all?

You get a first round pick....

Also if you do actually get Flagg next year you have that much more talent in the roster to light speed your way into competition

 

[TheStormofWar]

You get a first round pick....

Also if you do actually get Flagg next year you have that much more talent in the roster to light speed your way into competition

Homie is due 130m over the next 3 years. I'm going to need a bit more than a first for that type of scratch.

 

[slc]

If Bulls would give Lavine and a first for both JCs I would do immediately

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Homie is due 130m over the next 3 years. I'm going to need a bit more than a first for that type of scratch.

You are getting off the money off Clarkson and Collins as well.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Looks like Chicago is willing to put a first rounder in now.

Honestly, I think about Clarkson/Collins for LaVine for that. Only reason I see to say no is if you are actually concerned about winning too much with LaaVine.

When has a team with Lavine on its roster been associated with winning?

 

[TheStormofWar]

You are getting off the money off Clarkson and Collins as well.

For a longer term deal. That better be a 1unp. If not, no dice.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

As far as buy low reclamation projects… JC x2 for Zach and a real first is good value. I don’t worry about winning too much as much as if he ends up broken long term. There is an extra year on that deal and if his knee/ankle/foot are bad then it’s a lot. It would aid the tank if he was hurt but it’s a lot of cap going forward.

 

[sip]

Getting a future unprotected 1st would be hard to pass up but I doubt that would be the offer. A big thing for me is that Lavine gums up the works when it comes to player development. Between Sexton, Key, Brice, Cody and Collier we already have a bit of a minutes crunch in the backcourt. Brice has enough beef to play some minutes at the 3 but I think I like him more at the 2. Cody has the height and length for the 3 but at his weight I think he is more of a 2 as well. I would also love to get Taylor a consistent 30 minutes a game the 3 so there aren't many minutes to around anyways.

At the end of the day is a future 1st even if it is unprotected worth hindering some player development while also likely impacting our chance at a top 5 pick. Right now I'm leaning towards no unless we can make this a recovery year for Lavine where he rehabs the first half of the season. Then we dig such a big hole that we can have him shake off the rust the second half and not really impact our draft pick.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

When has a team with Lavine on its roster been associated with winning?

When he has had a good team around him

 

[Darkwing Duck]

When he has had a good team around him

How can that occur when he takes up 30% of the cap?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

How can that occur when he takes up 30% of the cap?

Someone who is better versed in CBA specifics can give you an exact figure, but that % will go down every season due to the incoming tv money

Also, just generally speaking, the Jazz's available salary to use in free agency is the least valuable asset they have.

He also gives you matching salary in a star trade...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Someone who is better versed in CBA specifics can give you an exact figure, but that % will go down every season due to the incoming tv money

Also, just generally speaking, the Jazz's available salary to use in free agency is the least valuable asset they have.

He also gives you matching salary in a star trade...

Cap will go up a maximum of 10% each year. They opted for smoothing.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Cap will go up a maximum of 10% each year. They opted for smoothing.

So by Zach's final year what will his contract be in terms of the percentage of the cap?

 

[Pinhead]

If you get off of both JCs and get a first then I’d do it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So by Zach's final year what will his contract be in terms of the percentage of the cap?

This one’s for @fishonjazz … look it up and do the math. It won’t make it amazing but if the cap goes up 15m a year for 3 years it’s easier to manage. The cap environment is also changing a lot as teams don’t want to spend so you may have a harder time moving off money going forward.