Where does Utah fit in the West?

[gregbroncs]

David Locke brought up a valid point tonight that I will get to in a minute. Right now, in the West, teams and their stars shake out like this:

GS: Curry, Thompson, Green (as good as Curry is, and he is great, having three stars vs every one else's two puts GS on another level)
SA: Leonard, Aldrich
OKC: Westbrook, Durant
LAC: Paul, Griffin
Portland: Lillard
Houston: Howard, Harden
Kings: Cousins
Pelicans: Davis
Timberwolves: Towns

There are NINE teams that have legit stars on their teams. We don't have one.

And no. Hayward isn't on the level of any of the players above. And Gobert is not on Hayward's level.

The Jazz are in a big hole talent wise, which is what Locke's point was. He said that we just expect Utah to make the playoffs next year, but the reality is, Sacramento, NO and Minnesota have the three best bigs in the NBA.

With Minnesota hiring Thibbs, I'd be on them making the playoffs over Utah next year. They have star talent. We don't.

If Exum doesn't become a Lillard level player, we might not make the playoffs for a long, long time.

You guys stupidly mock me for suggesting trades for players like Love, but if we don't get a star, we are not going anywhere soon. We don't have a star and the closest thing we have to a star is Hayward...and he has taken us nowhere. He is a very, very good player. Just not a good enough player.

We need a star. I'd trade Favors, Hood, Burks, and our pick for Cousins.

I'd trade Favors, Burks, Burke and our pick for Love.

I'd trade anyone for Harden. I'd trade our whole team for Towns.

If we don't get a star, we ain't going nowhere. It is what it is. This is the NBA and unless you have a star, you don't have a future.

Love is no longer a star. He's worse than Favors is right now.

Cousins is a star. But one you can't win with. Your trades stink.

We may need a star but those 2 guys are not it.

I see Hood and Exum as potential stars, I see Favors and Hayward as already All-star caliber players.

I'd love to get a star player, as long as they are actually star caliber players (meaning not Love) Or that they can handle being a star (meaning not Cousins) But you better be sure they want to be here and that you can win with them. Harden is an example of a guy being a star but not liking his situation and it not doing any good for the team.

I think it's too early to give up on this team. Bake the cake one more year if we need to make a move at the deadline or next off season then go for it. Unless of course an unbelievable deal drops in your lap.

 

[akirac73]

Bake the cake one more year...

The cake is beyond edible at this point...throw it in the trash. Let's cook some 28 day aged rib-eye steaks instead, it's more expensive but well worth it (and it only takes a few minutes to cook). Tired of ****ing cake at this point...

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The cake is beyond edible at this point...throw it in the trash. Let's cook some 28 day aged rib-eye steaks instead, it's more expensive but well worth it (and it only takes a few minutes to cook). Tired of ****ing cake at this point...

If it's beyond edible doesnt that mean it's super edible?

Or can we do some Chopped **** and re-purpose some stale cakkkkkkkkkk?

 

[gregbroncs]

The cake is beyond edible at this point...throw it in the trash. Let's cook some 28 day aged rib-eye steaks instead, it's more expensive but well worth it (and it only takes a few minutes to cook). Tired of ****ing cake at this point...

One of the youngest rosters in the league. The fans are out of patience and I don't get it. This team made a lot of progress despite being one of the most injured teams in the league this year. Without all of the injuries we easily make the playoffs and the fans are excited for the future. I'm not the type to over react to bad luck. This team is fine for now IMO.

 

[ncoloradojazz]

I will agree and disagree with you green. Yes a star is important but a leader is more valuable. The warriors are NOT currys team they are greens team. He is the leader. Green leads by example. He is the kind of player that makes every one around him better.

The jazz team is just too dang passive. No one has that fire. Grab you by the collar anf kick you butt if you are slacking.

That is the only reason i might not want cousins. He is the type of player that is amazing if he has a green to play with.

I think now is the time for the jazz to roll the dice with a move in the offseason.

It is a crazy concept I know but sometimes teams have multiple leaders. I know buddy crazy!

 

[Lakers_Slapper]

Lol. Who said Love would make us a contender?

I've said all along we only contend if Exum takes us there.

Love gets us to the playoffs. Love gives us a scorer. And when his deal is up, he goes off to LA and hopefully Lyles is ready to take over.

Answers:
You did.

All along consists of more than the last 3 months. (Yes I am sure you will dig up old posts of something un-relative, do it)

Playoff berth doesn't = Championship contender. Like you said, when his deal is up he's off to L.A. Great trade idea! Trade for someone that wants to be traded or will sign with someone else, leaving us with nothing. Fantastic mind set! Great minds like you, may make you a future GM for the 76er's.

 

[Lakers_Slapper]

Well, there's 30seconds of my life I'll never get back.

What the hell is wrong with u?! Please put me on your ignore list.

That 30 seconds you wasted reading my thread was twice as long as you last in bed with your girlfriend. Ignore list? You would have added me already but you love the after burn.

 

[jeffronius]

Oh Yeah!

 

[fishonjazz]

Oh Yeah!

Loving that avatar man!