Jazz4ever
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You have one reliable three point shooter in that lineup. Oh and it's undersized as well......
Trade Rumor From NBADraft.Net Involving Andre Iguodala And The #3 Pick
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You have one reliable three point shooter in that lineup. Oh and it's undersized as well......
Undersized? You have to be kidding me? I mean, Jefferson isn't an ideal center, but every other position is huge.
The most encouraging thing in that article is that it mentions Minnesota trading the #2 to Washington for #6 and Nick Young. Washington would take Kanter, and I guess Minnesota would take Vesely, Valanciunas or Biyombo.
That would mean Derrick Williams or Irving would be available at #3 for the Jazz.
Oh, and I'd rather have Kanter or Brandon Knight than Iggy.
That would mean Derrick Williams or Irving would be available at #3 for the Jazz.
Oh, and I'd rather have Kanter or Brandon Knight than Iggy.
Chad Feldheimer
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Iggy has 3y/44Mish left
- Okur's 11M
3y/33M and the last year is a a player option.
Decent rebounder for his position 6 rpg & good passer 6 apg. Shooting looks average. Can score 16 ppg career.
Meeks looks like he could provide some depth at SG as well. Averaging over 10ppg last season in Philly.
Hawes is an ok player with good size (7'1 245) Could be a good backup for Al & Favors.
Pretty good value for a roll of the dice on a guy like Kanter to me.
However if Minnesota does pick Kanter and trades him to Washington. I'd snatch up Williams in a heartbeat.
- Okur's 11M
3y/33M and the last year is a a player option.
Decent rebounder for his position 6 rpg & good passer 6 apg. Shooting looks average. Can score 16 ppg career.
Meeks looks like he could provide some depth at SG as well. Averaging over 10ppg last season in Philly.
Hawes is an ok player with good size (7'1 245) Could be a good backup for Al & Favors.
Pretty good value for a roll of the dice on a guy like Kanter to me.
However if Minnesota does pick Kanter and trades him to Washington. I'd snatch up Williams in a heartbeat.
Chad Feldheimer
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This trade would help the bench a ton. Sap, Meeks, Hawes, Bell, Miles, #12, Watson.
I thought Okur only had two years left.
Chad Feldheimer
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Okur is owed 10.8 million for 11/12 and then is a free agent.
Darkwing Duck
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Memo is expiring next year.
Not sure where the three for thirty-three is coming from.
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Oh, I see where it came from.
Can't just subtract 11 million from Iggy's three year deal, Chad. They would owe Iguodala 30.6 million dollars for two years AFTER Memo would have expired.
Not sure where the three for thirty-three is coming from.
EDIT:
Oh, I see where it came from.
Can't just subtract 11 million from Iggy's three year deal, Chad. They would owe Iguodala 30.6 million dollars for two years AFTER Memo would have expired.
Stifle Tower
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So you use the #3 to help the bench and get a guy with a ton of downside risk (health, declining stats...and COST)? I agree this might be a weak draft but I think you have to at least take a player you HOPE will be a starter. I'd rather have a Kanter, Knight, even Valanciunas - or hope DWill drops to #3 than take an aging vet.
And Dwill, how are figuring "huge" for every other position? Favors and Jefferson are both 6'10." So slighlty above at PF but below at center. And that's IF Favors starts - he won't; Millsap will. Harris is 6'3", not small, but not big either. And he plays "small" relying on quickness instead of posting up. Then you'd have Iggy at 6'6" and Hayward at 6'8." Match Iggy against a SG and Hayward vs. a SF and you have perhaps a slight advantage with Igoudala, but a wash or less with Hayward at SF. Turn that around and you have an advantage at SG, but then Iggy is an undersized SF.
LjJazzman
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I for one wouldn't mind this deal at all as long as Williams is gone before before 3. If williams is on the board at 3 I say take him, if not I'd do this trade.
Not many players are the total package. Most shooting wings aren't going to play as good of defense, be able to rebound or pass like Iggy. Iggy can do everything but shoot, but thats kind of ok since we have a great shooting in Haywerd. A huge problem for a long time has been our wings getting beat off the dribble and our bigs having to come help out. Iggy would help that situations a lot. We are going to bitch about any wing we get no matter what. We will either bitch about him not being athletic enough, or being able to play D, or not being a good enough shooter.
We get way deeper with this trade. Jodie is a good shooter off the bench, and spencer would be a very nice backup center.
As long as we are also dumping okur and getting picks back I'm all for this trade.
Not many players are the total package. Most shooting wings aren't going to play as good of defense, be able to rebound or pass like Iggy. Iggy can do everything but shoot, but thats kind of ok since we have a great shooting in Haywerd. A huge problem for a long time has been our wings getting beat off the dribble and our bigs having to come help out. Iggy would help that situations a lot. We are going to bitch about any wing we get no matter what. We will either bitch about him not being athletic enough, or being able to play D, or not being a good enough shooter.
We get way deeper with this trade. Jodie is a good shooter off the bench, and spencer would be a very nice backup center.
As long as we are also dumping okur and getting picks back I'm all for this trade.
Chad Feldheimer
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I guess I was looking it from the perspective of not having to pay memo to do absolutely nothing this year which is entirely possible. But you're right.
Do the trade, that's just monopoly money. And the draft pick? Fodder.
Yes!! Hawes is really good...better than people think and I am a big Iggy fan.
Chad Feldheimer
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Not saying it's a slam dunk hell yes deal. Just saying it's a lot of value for a guy who could end up being like Darko
LjJazzman
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This trade would also make sense based on the all the comments the Jazz said after Deron got traded. Going with the safer option instead of the high risk high reward.
Darkwing Duck
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I'm not as against the trade as you are, and the reason I probably wouldn't is the numbers I cited. I think the Jazz like Iguodala, but if you look at the Jazz' salary structure, they got NO ONE but Favors and Hayward past '13, and I don't think they'd want Iguodala's 16M to be the only non-rookie contract guaranteed to be on the roster in '13 at this juncture.
I don't think anyone they pick there busts. But even if they do, they can swallow the cost and move on a lot easier than if Iggy falls apart and/or doesn't help you win at all.
The Jazz are in A TERRIFIC position to rebuild. It drives me crazy to think that the organization hasn't embraced that. Considering the source and how looney tunes the idea is for the Jazz, I don't think there's any credibility. And I sure as **** hope that's the case as well.
Chad Feldheimer
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Fair points. Nobody can predict the future. But Iggy has been pretty healthy(missed 15 games last year, but up to then just 6 games total in the 6 previous seasons) and played on a team with basically no front court. He comes to Utah with Favors, Sap & Jefferson he will get a lot open looks. The emergence of Jrue Holliday took away some of Iggy's production. But he is legit scorer and only 27.
Add in young guys like Hawes (23) Meeks (23) and I don't think it's a dumb move.
Sounds better than drafting Kanter and trading him to Washington for Nick Young & the #6.