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Favors next season?

Ellis269 said:
I’d like to see what a comparison of these numbers look like from the beginning of the season (when Rubio/Mitchell were trying to figure out how to play together) and how they’ve looked since Gobert came back from injury.

I just feel like they’ve been clicking since that point and this is the second time that the Jazz have looked amazing while they’ve been healthy and on the court together (end of 2014/15 season as well).

I also wonder how much Hood and Johnson playing significant roles vs. Crowder and O’Neale impacts those numbers. This roster just seems to fit a LOT better now than they did at the beginning of the season.

And they’re winning together. That can’t be understated.
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Good stuff here. I have nothing to disagree with. Seems like right now every player combination is working tbh. In quin and DL we trust.
 
Ellis269 said:
I’d like to see what a comparison of these numbers look like from the beginning of the season (when Rubio/Mitchell were trying to figure out how to play together) and how they’ve looked since Gobert came back from injury.

I just feel like they’ve been clicking since that point and this is the second time that the Jazz have looked amazing while they’ve been healthy and on the court together (end of 2014/15 season as well).

I also wonder how much Hood and Johnson playing significant roles vs. Crowder and O’Neale impacts those numbers. This roster just seems to fit a LOT better now than they did at the beginning of the season.

And they’re winning together. That can’t be understated.
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Our only lineups with enough minutes to draw any conclusions post all-star are our starters Rubio-Mitchell-Inlges-Favors-Gobert and that lineup swapping Favors for Crowder. Those lineups have a 118 and 106 minutes together. Our next closest lineup only has 22 minutes on court together.

Both of those lineups are very good but the Crowder one is better. Although that lineup also plays against less starters. But the Favors one is +12 and the Crowder one is +33. The biggest difference is that the Crowder one is posting a defensive rating of 80, which is crazy crazy good. I doubt that is sustainable but still impressive. The offensive ratings are pretty close. The Favors rating is still a really impressive 99.

But there are so many factors including that we often start slow. Mitchell for example doesnt do much early.
 
I will also add to above that Crowder has made our defense better in the lineups but there are many factors to that. But just to show that those stats are a little skewed Gobert and Jerebko have played a decent amount of minutes together post all-star and they are posting better defensive ratings than either Favors or Crowder with Gobert. Matchups change things a lot.

Udoh and anyone also posts better defensive rating than anything. Udoh has better defensive rating than Gobert but I dont believe he is a better defender.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I will also add to above that Crowder has made our defense better in the lineups but there are many factors to that. But just to show that those stats are a little skewed Gobert and Jerebko have played a decent amount of minutes together post all-star and they are posting better defensive ratings than either Favors or Crowder with Gobert. Matchups change things a lot.

Udoh and anyone also posts better defensive rating than anything. Udoh has better defensive rating than Gobert but I dont believe he is a better defender.
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Congrats. Favors is still expendable.
 
I love the Gobert, Favors, Crowder, Jerebko, Udoh, Bradley and Sefalosha frontcourt. All things considered, I’d like them all to return next year (at about their current salaries) and see how this thing looks with Gobert, Favors and Sefalosha healthy the whole year.

I don’t think Crowder holds up well as the primary PF for the whole season, but he’s an incredibly important . His best value likely comes as a small ball 4 in the playoffs when teams get smaller. He’s a guy that helps guard Durant and LeBron in the playoffs when they move to the 4 more.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Sure, everyone not named Gobert or Mitchell is. Maybe Ingles isn't as well. But that doesn't mean it won't hurt us to lose him.
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I honestly don't think he'd be missed that much on the floor, and I don't think that is worth eight figures of cap in 2019.
 
Quin's Murderface said:
The Jazz can trade Burks with a second round pick as an expiring contract most likely this year. Or they could package him with Bradley or one of our better 1+1 assets (who I think are redundant) if a team is interested. It's a lot easier to trade a guy who only has one year left as opposed to that second year.
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The value of an expiring contract to a team is if the counterparty exchanges it for a longer-term contract, so they free space for upcoming free agency period. No one will take Burks at $10M for a 2nd round pick, unless the Jazz take back a longer-term contract in exchange.
 
silesian said:
The value of an expiring contract to a team is if the counterparty exchanges it for a longer-term contract, so they free space for upcoming free agency period. No one will take Burks at $10M for a 2nd round pick, unless the Jazz take back a longer-term contract in exchange.
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Or they could try to trade him for a larger expiring contract. Save a team some cash and give them a pick in the process. Doesn’t necessarily have to be for a long-term deal.
 
Here’s a great scenario on a number of fronts:

1. NOP miss the playoffs.
2. Davis becomes malcontent.
3. NOP decides to cash it in and blow it up, trading AD for Hayward and picks.
4. NOP, now looking to cash in assets and no longer pressed to lock up cap space with Cousins, decides to take a flyer on Bradley and takes back AB in exchange for Mirotic. Then we get to keep all of Udoh, Thabo, and Jerebko.
 
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