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Interesting times to be in the White House, I imagine. Here's the NYT Op-Ed from an anonymous senior White House official:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...ce-inside-the-trump-administration/ar-BBMVtbs

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.

The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.

It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

The result is a two-track presidency.

Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.

Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.

On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.

Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.

There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.

The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration.
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...h-hunt-sources-say/ar-BBMV6zH?ocid=spartanntp

President Donald Trump, showing his outrage over Bob Woodward's explosive new book, is ordering a real witch hunt in the West Wing and throughout his administration, asking loyal aides to help determine who cooperated with the book.

"The book is fiction," Trump said Wednesday in the Oval Office alongside the Emir of Kuwait.

Even as the President publicly fumes, he's privately on a mission to determine who did -- and didn't -- talk to Woodward, CNN has learned.

But no sooner had the search for Woodward's sources begun than yet another devastating portrait of the President emerged, this time via a New York Times op-ed wrote by an unnamed senior Trump administration official.
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The White House did not immediately respond to a CNN request for comment on the op-ed.

Before it published, two officials who have spoken directly to the President say he is pleased with the denials of speaking to Woodward offered by chief of staff John Kelly and Defense Secretary James Mattis.

Trump himself highlighted the denials of Mattis and Kelly, saying that both men were "insulted" by the comments Woodward attributed to them.

"Gen. Mattis has come out very, very strongly...He was insulted by the remarks that were attributed to him," Trump said. "John Kelly, same thing. He was insulted by what they said. He couldn't believe what they said."

In Trump's eyes, what makes or breaks aides who are reported to have made disparaging comments about him is how strongly they push back on the accusations.

Unlike Kelly and Mattis, former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson never denied calling Trump a "moron" and a former senior White House official said Trump "never forgave him for it."

But he is also taking note of the silence from several other former administration officials.

"He wants to know who talked to Woodward," one of the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity amid the highly tense atmosphere in the West Wing in the wake of the book.

The search for leakers inside the administration contrasts with the White House's defense that the book was fueled by "disgruntled employees," offered by press secretary Sarah Sanders and others.

One source close to the White House said people inside the administration are "frustrated because they know it's true."

Trump has talked openly with allies about his suspicion that former national security adviser H.R. McMaster cooperated, suggesting that McMaster likely turned over his notes to Woodward. The President has aired a similar belief about Gary Cohn, the former chief economic adviser.

Both men, of course, play key roles in the book.

The President is directing the response strategy personally, officials say, in consultation with top communications official Bill Shine and other aides. At this point, it seems unlikely that anyone is immediately fired because of the book, one official says, because that would "lend credence to a book he is trying to discredit."

More broadly, the White House's emerging strategy to push back against Woodward's reporting seems to be going after those former officials suspected of sharing documents and stories, according to several people familiar with the game plan.

"You don't discredit Bob Woodward. You discredit the motives of the people" who provided the information, one person said.

Evidently caught off guard by the level of detail in the book, White House officials were soliciting advice from allies on how to respond to the book as recently as this weekend, a person familiar with those conversations said.

Sanders also tried brushing off the book as a rehash of old -- incorrect -- stories.

"Certainly just because they keep getting told doesn't make them more true," Sanders said.
 
What a bunch of ****ing cowards. It's pretty cool that the office of the presidency has fallen to what amounts to a coup by Trump's advisors/cabinet.

Whoever wrote that article is more interested in holding onto their own power within the presidency than acting as some kind of resistance.

If they truly belive Trump is unfit for office, and apparently they do, there's a solution called the 25th amendment.
 
What a bunch of ****ing cowards. It's pretty cool that the office of the presidency has fallen to what amounts to a coup by Trump's advisors/cabinet.

You heard what Donny said "I'll choose only the best people for my administration"
 
The thing that pisses me off about the NYTimes oped and the people quoted in the Woodward book is that they don’t do what’s necessary to end this atrocity. They’re in positions of power to invoke the 25th amendment. They could end his presidency. Yet, they continue to placate to him to and downplay his dangerous tendencies in order to achieve their own petty and pathetic goals (more military spending, tax cuts, deregulation, etc).

Is promoting your own personal agenda really worth destroying our democracy? So while I get what the oped is trying to do I don’t have any sympathy for them. **** you. You know he’s a piece of ****. End his presidency. No amount of tax cuts or deregulation is worth this.
 
What a bunch of ****ing cowards. It's pretty cool that the office of the presidency has fallen to what amounts to a coup by Trump's advisors/cabinet.

Whoever wrote that article is more interested in holding onto their own power within the presidency than acting as some kind of resistance.

If they truly belive Trump is unfit for office, and apparently they do, there's a solution called the 25th amendment.
Definitely some cya here. People staking out some moral high ground before this pimple pops and Trump nation turns on him.

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Interesting times to be in the White House, I imagine. Here's the NYT Op-Ed from an anonymous senior White House official:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...ce-inside-the-trump-administration/ar-BBMVtbs
The thing that pisses me off about the NYTimes oped and the people quoted in the Woodward book is that they don’t do what’s necessary to end this atrocity. They’re in positions of power to invoke the 25th amendment. They could end his presidency. Yet, they continue to placate to him to and downplay his dangerous tendencies in order to achieve their own petty and pathetic goals (more military spending, tax cuts, deregulation, etc).

Is promoting your own personal agenda really worth destroying our democracy?
I do think though that they are providing enough rope to hang Trump. Let's hope they are able to block Kavanaugh -- the guy's legal logic is flawed. If he had been on the court in 1954, we'd still have segregation based on his description today of how he uses precedent to make his decisions
 
Interesting times to be in the White House, I imagine. Here's the NYT Op-Ed from an anonymous senior White House official:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...ce-inside-the-trump-administration/ar-BBMVtbs

you mean an anonymous fake official in Bob's imagination.

The whole Watergate thing, imo, was only run out "with permission" from the Rockefeller managers. Lessee.... back then I was in the Philippines during that election, talking to folks who proved credible that Philippine Pres. Ferdinand Marcos had been financed by the Rockefellers to win his first election. He got pretty big for his britches, pretty fast..... and started snarling and biting the hand that fed him. The media there started running up scandal after scandal, and Marcos declared Martial Law. At that time I was actually in a commie-controlled area, the Huks in central Luzon. They were pretty nice folks, and took me home for supper to explain Philippine history to me, and how American business Bigs had abused their country. These were not hayseed rural hicks, but college-educated and brilliant young folks whose parents WERE the corporate Bigs of the Philippines. University of the Philippines is the premier educational institution there, like Harvard.

When I got here, it was deja vu all over again. Nixon got too big for his britches, too.

But he wouldn't have been taken down if he had done what he was told. The whole problem with Trump is he is really his own damn man.

I might have absorbed some perspective from being a firstline bookkeeper hired to gather receipts and post them in ledgers in a huge sprawling mansion where, allegedly, "Deep Throat" called home. ah, what a career, being a fly on the wall.

At any rate, Woodward and Bernstein are over-rated hacks now. Hillary's crew has gotten out their "Active Measures" now, too. More twisted bias run out in desperation trying to stop the steady progress of unraveling the much more significant scandals coming from Obama's operations in weaponizing the federal agencies, using taxpayer assets to destroy representative democracy from the root up. More than 1000 times the private little burglar crew.....
 
Whoever the author is, he will now be the anti-QAnon in the alternate universe inhabited by Trump cultists. His/her name will come out. They have to know that, so their motive has to have more then a little self-service attached to it.

Trump must really be off the rails tonight, with Deep State paranoia already a part of his own alternative reality narrative, now colliding with the inhabitants of Woodward's book and an anonymous Deep State Throat. The tweets should really be off the deep end.
 
I do think though that they are providing enough rope to hang Trump. Let's hope they are able to block Kavanaugh -- the guy's legal logic is flawed. If he had been on the court in 1954, we'd still have segregation based on his description today of how he uses precedent to make his decisions

There’s no way Kavanaugh isn’t confirmed. That’s the only unifying Force in the gop right now. They’re protecting trump (and each other) so they can promote their agenda; deregulation, tax cuts, and conservative justices. Otherwise, there’s literally no point in tolerating Trump.

In order to block Kavanaugh you need every single democrat to vote no and at least two republicans to join them.

There’s very little chance of a United democratic caucus. Many are running this year in vulnerable red states. So I’d be surprised if you got all democrats to vote no. Then you compound that with a cult like loyalty for Trump. And Kavanaugh is in.

Any republican who votes “no” on Kavanaugh will be committing political suicide. While they might sleep better at night, that type of integrity has yet to be seen.
 
The thing that pisses me off about the NYTimes oped and the people quoted in the Woodward book is that they don’t do what’s necessary to end this atrocity. They’re in positions of power to invoke the 25th amendment. They could end his presidency. Yet, they continue to placate to him to and downplay his dangerous tendencies in order to achieve their own petty and pathetic goals (more military spending, tax cuts, deregulation, etc).

Is promoting your own personal agenda really worth destroying our democracy? So while I get what the oped is trying to do I don’t have any sympathy for them. **** you. You know he’s a piece of ****. End his presidency. No amount of tax cuts or deregulation is worth this.
This is not about their agenda. If Trump goes Pence becomes President. Agenda is largely the same. I think the Republican establishment is terrified of the backlash that would come from Trump's base if they were complicit in his ouster.
 
I do think though that they are providing enough rope to hang Trump. Let's hope they are able to block Kavanaugh -- the guy's legal logic is flawed. If he had been on the court in 1954, we'd still have segregation based on his description today of how he uses precedent to make his decisions

Hopefully you’re right, this is enough evidence to hang Trump.
 
@babe, although it's seems likely Woodward sourced this anonymous individual, you're conflating Woodward's book with the Op-Ed piece in the Times.

My money on a key source is H R McMasters. While still a LtCol in the U S Army he wrote the book, "Dereliction of Duty" about the failure of leadership in the Johnson administration. Seems like he would be sensitive to incompetence in the WH

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