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Proof of vaccination or negative COVID test required to attend games

Not fired but they are already short and now they will firing people once the mandate kicks in. It hasn’t yet but just wait .

We might have physical space but we don’t have personnel like we did last winter,” says Webb. “We are severely understaffed. Our nursing in particular, but also other healthcare workers including respiratory therapists and others have been really severely impacted by the toll that caring for COVID-19 and other patients has taken over the last 18 months and we’ve lost a lot who have actually retired from healthcare and we’re having a really hard time refilling those positions….
So you’re just talking out of your *** when you claimed these shortages were created by people being fried by vaccine mandates. The shortages we’re seeing in Utah have been created by people leaving the profession and by uncontrolled spread.

Thanks for clarifying. Weird way of getting there but thanks.
 
Getting vaccinated means that, if exposed, you're less likely to catch it, and if you do catch it, it's less likely to be serious. And not just a little less likely on either one of those, it's something on the order of 20 times less likely.
This. You ****ing tard-asses.
 
So you’re just talking out of your *** when you claimed these shortages were created by people being fried by vaccine mandates. The shortages we’re seeing in Utah have been created by people leaving the profession and by uncontrolled spread.

Thanks for clarifying. Weird way of getting there but thanks.
It was tongue in cheek as there’s many places bracing for even worse staff shortages. I would guess Utah is part of that since it’s vaccination rate is pretty par. These hospitals are already bare minimum and I’m betting there’s some nurses who won’t abide.

 
The way I see it, I’m fully vaccinated so I have nothing at all to be scared of or judge others of. If the guy next to me on trax right now is unvaccinated, I really don’t care as if he gets really sick or dies he made his bed.
The vaccine is only 90% effective. That means you might still be vulnerable.
 
It was tongue in cheek as there’s many places bracing for even worse staff shortages. I would guess Utah is part of that since it’s vaccination rate is pretty par. These hospitals are already bare minimum and I’m betting there’s some nurses who won’t abide.

Again, we were talking about Utah but sure “many places.” Let’s talk about “many places.” statistically speaking, very few who say that they’ll quit their jobs rather than get vaccinated actually follow through.

Like his entire thread here shows this. Most trumpers/anti vaxxers are all talk when their jobs are put on the line.
 
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One of the points I made multiple times is that an unvaccinated person who had covid is more protected than a vaccinated person who never had covid. And gandalf, the illiterate pig, tried to argue otherwise.
You are completely wrong. This antivaccine trope has been around for decades, and it's just as wrong as it has always been. Vaccines provide better protections that recovering from covid19.


Even if you were right, which you obviously are not, your point would be irrelevant.

Not everyone needs to minimize those effects.
True. Just people who love their country. Traitors have no reason to get vaccinated.

The point is with the vaccine available, life can resume without discriminating against the unvaccinated, since the risk is incredibly low.
The vaccine offers 90% effectiveness, and natural immunity even less. The risk is not that low.

Also, I'm done with this thread most people here seem to be pious or straight up bad people. I've had my fill of using science to debunk the hate-filled drivel.
I never tire of using science to debunk hate-filled drivel, but I also welcome your ceasing to post drivel (hate-filled or otherwise).
 
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The other side of the coin is how amazing it is that, for people who opt more for our persuasions, even after the politics of Trump and COVID-19, we’re still finding room to be surprised at how self-serving and short-sighted most of American society is. In one way or another. And on the Left, too.

For me, I’m often still surprised by the effectiveness of players who are clearly operating in bad faith.
 
meh. Stay home if y’all are so scared about 90%. I knew i should’ve just kept my mouth shut. I’ve been to both Utah games and the BYU game and the numbers are stagnant. Be afraid…

my bad. Back to nba basketball.
 
meh. Stay home if y’all are so scared about 90%. I knew i should’ve just kept my mouth shut. I’ve been to both Utah games and the BYU game and the numbers are stagnant. Be afraid…

my bad. Back to nba basketball.
Reducing the stance to “scared” is kind of offensive.
 
The vaccine is only 90% effective. That means you might still be vulnerable.

true and most likely considerably less if it's been 6 months or more since you had your vaccination. People in the US are nuts if they're not still taking all the other precautions
 
So you agree that the vaccine is better than natural immunity?
You're such a simple-minded moron. Did you even read the CDC paper that was linked or just the headline? Hint: It doesn't compare natural immunity to vaccine immunity. It compares ppl w/natural immunity + the vax vs. just natural immunity.

It's not close. If you can have either the vax or natural immunity, natural immunity is better.

 
You're such a simple-minded moron. Did you even read the CDC paper that was linked or just the headline? Hint: It doesn't compare natural immunity to vaccine immunity. It compares ppl w/natural immunity + the vax vs. just natural immunity.

It's not close. If you can have either the vax or natural immunity, natural immunity is better.
Got any papers that passed peer review?

I offered four sources that confirm vaccination-generated immunity is better. You offered a decades-old anti-vaccine trope and a paper that hasn't even been positively reviewed.
 
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