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Game Thread Feb 16, 2022 08:00PM MT: Jazz at Lakers

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I'm actually not too bummed about this. This is the type of game the Jazz need to figure out how to deal with. Lebron played a small-ball 5 in the 4th quarter. Jazz players were hedging. If Lebron doesn't make a shot, someone like Austin Reaves is open. The Jazz just really struggle with a 5-out who can both shoot and playmake.
 
Avery said:
Lots of blame to go around tonight. We are near the bottom of the league in clutch performances and games like tonight show why.

I think we’d all be surprised if we somehow get past the first round this year as this team just isn’t built right.
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I would be surprised if we dont get past the first round.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I really don't know; what was he supposed to do?
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You notice how one player was killing the Lakers? Yeah, they ran a simple trap at him and it completely neutered the entire offense. We did nothing to change or take advantage of that defense. Just let it happen. Don was completely taken out of the game in the 4th by one adjustment. The Jazz are playing with 3 shooters and the best rim presence in the league, and we can't figure out how to score when they send a double team at Don? Pathetic.

You notice how one player was killing the Jazz? The Jazz didn't do ****. We were completely scrambled and couldn't get the ball out of the hands of the one player that was scoring. The Lakers were out there with 2 non shooters, and we couldn't find a way to double or make things difficult on LeBron? LeBron is playing with WB, Monk, THT, and Reaves. Are you kidding me?

Yeah, there's a reason why we completely suck year after year in the clutch. It's the same reason why we suck badly in the playoffs and especially bad later in the series. Game goes off script, Quin is a ****ing robot who can't make a change. The last time we blew it against the Lakers is because we couldn't stop Stanley ****ing Johnson running a PnR as the ball handler. It's embarrassing that Quin can let this happen to him for years and not get better. He gets embarrassed by any coach with half a brain.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I'm actually not too bummed about this. This is the type of game the Jazz need to figure out how to deal with. Lebron played a small-ball 5 in the 4th quarter. Jazz players were hedging. If Lebron doesn't make a shot, someone like Austin Reaves is open.
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This is sort of where I'm at, although I don't know how optimistic I am that they'll figure out their clutch issues.

I wanted to lose by the end, just because I hope a painful loss like this right before the all-star break gets the coaches to take a very serious look at them.
 
maybe Quin can learn a thing or two from Denver's comeback W in GS.

Uncle Jeff was struggling hard so Malone took him out of the game early and he only saw 18min as a starter after having a +/- of -10 when he was on the floor. Will Barton also logged 20min after struggling with his shot.

If it's Quin coaching the Nuggets, both Uncle Jeff and Barton will get 30min in a blowout loss.
 
fallenchicken said:
Hope it’s not a preview of the post season but if we draw the wrong team in the first round it’s very possible.
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Sadly, I hope it is, as it may be the only way to get ownership/management to blow **** up.

I think it is mostly on Quin, but either way, something needs to change.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Mitchell was the only one with juice the whole game and when the Lakers built the entire defense around shutting him down, we didn't have a counter.
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This is true. The Lakers were trapping him and getting the ball out of his hands. He had a couple bad misses though.
 
We are to the Lakers what the Denver Nuggets are to us...a bright spot during a miserable stretch of poor play. Now watch the Lakers go back to normal and lose 10 in a row.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don't think this is at all true. He sagged off Westbrook and actually got a decent contest Lebron's three. Everyone in that building knows that if Gobert plays him close that far out that the rim is wide open for him.

Part of the problem is that the team is not only going to have to devise a system for these situations (maybe they have?), they are going to have to trust it.
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I might be wrong on the westbrook play but on the lebron one i was mentally yelling at gobert to close out on lebron. I knew he was shooting a three and I knew it was going in. I think everyone did. Sure it would allow lebron to get to the paint. But at least then maybe someone can challenge and make him miss. If not, 3 points is more than 2.
 
Also that Royce turnover, where he couldn't get the shot off, didn't drive the ball and just threw it away to Malik Monk was pretty bad. This is what I'm saying with him. In a tight game, that put the Jazz behind the 8-ball.
 
KqWIN said:
You notice how one player was killing the Lakers? Yeah, they ran a simple trap at him and it completely neutered the entire offense. We did nothing to change or take advantage of that defense. Just let it happen. Don was completely taken out of the game in the 4th by one adjustment. The Jazz are playing with 3 shooters and the best rim presence in the league, and we can't figure out how to score when they send a double team at Don? Pathetic.

You notice how one player was killing the Jazz? The Jazz didn't do ****. We were completely scrambled and couldn't get the ball out of the hands of the one player that was scoring. The Lakers were out there with 2 non shooters, and we couldn't find a way to double or make things difficult on LeBron? LeBron is playing with WB, Monk, THT, and Reaves. Are you kidding me?

Yeah, there's a reason why we completely suck year after year in the clutch. It's the same reason why we suck badly in the playoffs and especially bad later in the series. Game goes off script, Quin is a ****ing robot who can't make a change. The last time we blew it against the Lakers is because we couldn't stop Stanley ****ing Johnson running a PnR as the ball handler. It's embarrassing that Quin can let this happen to him for years and not get better. He gets embarrassed by any coach with half a brain.
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But the system. We will eventually regress to the mean and the system will magically work.
 
i don't blame the personnel anymore since we clearly have options from the bench. It was terrible coaching and rotation that's holding us back right now. Yes we probably still won't win anything if we bring in a different coach, but we can certainly avoid those embarrassing meltdown had we had a coach who's more flexible with his rotation and more aware of the situation during games.
 
SoUjazzfan said:
Or a coach willing or able to find one
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Yeah but to be fair, no one besides Mitchell had it going at all tonight. Like, even decent looks when everyone's playing sub-par aren't decent looks anymore.

I don't know. I really don't know. It just felt like the game was over when the Jazz were still up 10 and the Lakers started getting it going. I don't think it's that the Jazz are soft, per se, it's that they are mentally fragile in the clutch. They just look so overwhelmed against the Lakers on the road specifically when the clutch rolls in.
 
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