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I'm related to someone that works at Best Buy and I hear that trading Ingles fresh off his injury was a big deal to Quin. Ingles was the captain of the locker room.
 
Jazzman12 said:
I haven’t been through all 17 pages, so please forgive me if this point has already been brought up. Food for thought:

- This past offseason, the Dallas Mavericks and Rick Carlisle parted ways prior to last season after a long tenure and not having much playoff success since a Finals victory during Dirk’s prime. Carlisle was pretty much universally seen as a top 5 NBA coach. Dallas hired Jason Kidd and made it to the WCF’s in Kidd’s first year with the team.

- This past offseason, the Boston Celtics made a coaching change, moving Brad Stevens into the front office and hiring rookie HC Ime Udoka to lead the team. Stevens was held in high regard in most NBA circles. The Boston Celtics have made it to the NBA Finals in Udoka’s first year with the team.

Now before I get roasted, I’m fully aware that we don’t even know what our roster is going to look like at this point for whoever our new HC is. My point is merely that losing Quin is not the be all end all for this team. I keep reading tweets (mostly from media, but a few from the fanbase), that are all too keen to point out just how good of a coach the Jazz are losing. While I’m fully aware Quin is a good coach, he’s also a coach that didn’t want to be here and that certainly had his limitations. I’ll still never forgive him for the 25 point blown lead in the 2nd half vs the Clippers. Coaching cost us that series, period.

There’s no need for Quin’s inability to see his contract out for this move to set the Jazz back. Granted, it’s now on ownership and Danny Ainge to make the right choice on his replacement (amongst a few other franchise altering decisions that loom).
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Dont tell jazz twitter, apparently Rudy and Don are already out the door and we are hiring Jim Boylen.
 
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About a month ago...Ooops
 
Quin was fired or moving to the front office. Jazz are just being nice letting him frame it this way.
 
Tony Jones says Adrian Griffin and Johnnie Bryant are two names to watch in Utah's coaching search...he say's Griffin was one of the final candidates when Snyder was hired, and he interviewed well with the Jazz. Says the Jazz are looking for someone who commands buy-in and respect from the entire roster, including Donovan.

Quins departure doesn't change their offseason plans...they still have no plans for a full on re-build. They want to try to make a deep playoff run next season.

They've received a lot of calls about Mitchell and given a firm no... they will only consider trading Mitchell if they receive a monstrous offer.

They have received a lot of interest in both Rudy and Bogey.

Repeats again that the variance for the Jazz is very high...they could make multiple trades involving high level players or they could simply run it back with the bulk of the roster.
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
He’s done… he doesn’t know it yet but he’s likely not a rotation player again.
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Who knows ? Considering how he talked over still wanting to play, maybe he can return, and he had an acl tear, not an blew everything posible on his knee type injury, as far as we know. He may not have a role as big as he once had here for a number of reasons, but he's still a really good spot up shooter, with passing/playmaking skills, who knows to play team defense at the very least.

People took him for done by playing pnr with Whiteside, but honestly, he already looked as bad to worse playing pnr with Ed Davis and bounced back with a can't jump over a journous Favors, and wasn't as bad when still played pnr with Rudy (but played much less especially these past 2 seasons).
 
Jingled said:
Tony Jones says Adrian Griffin and Johnnie Bryant are two names to watch in Utah's coaching search...he say's Griffin was one of the final candidates when Snyder was hired, and he interviewed well with the Jazz. Says the Jazz are looking for someone who commands buy-in and respect from the entire roster, including Donovan.

Quins departure doesn't change their offseason plans...they still have no plans for a full on re-build. They want to try to make a deep playoff run next season.

They've received a lot of calls about Mitchell and given a firm no... they will only consider trading Mitchell if they receive a monstrous offer.

They have received a lot of interest in both Rudy and Bogey.

Repeats again that the variance for the Jazz is very high...they could make multiple trades involving high level players or they could simply run it back with the bulk of the roster.
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oh wow. the bolded very interesting. can you provide that link? i'd be very interesting in reading that. thanks!
 
dipship31 said:
Thought this would ultimately happen, but still pretty crazy it actually has.

Quin was still a great coach for us. Great basement raiser and questionable ceiling raiser (possibly due to dysfunctional players).
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I agree. I really liked Quin. I thought he was doing a great job building up the players he was given until the expectations skyrocketed and games of high importance hit him straight in the mouth and his two best players decided it's better to settle scores off the floor than to work together for the common goal. Now part of his job is to deal with that and still steer the ship in the right direction so he must bear some of the responsibility too.

With that said, I think a lot of people are massively underestimating Quin's offensive coaching. Donovan Mitchell - fallen off Mike Conley - Royce O'Neale - Bojan - Rudy is not the starting lineup of a team you would suspect is the best offense in the league two years in a row. But his(and the FO's) overreliance on Rudy as a defensive anchor ultimately doomed this team as a serious playoff contender. They just refused even to attempt diversifying our defensive schemes even after the current one was unequivocally destroyed in the playoffs, only for us to see it again this year... the exact same thing.

Overall I'm not as negative on Snyder and not as cheerful about his departure as many here, but I absolutely understand why both the Jazz and Snyder might want to try something different.
 
Jingled said:
Tony Jones says Adrian Griffin and Johnnie Bryant are two names to watch in Utah's coaching search...he say's Griffin was one of the final candidates when Snyder was hired, and he interviewed well with the Jazz. Says the Jazz are looking for someone who commands buy-in and respect from the entire roster, including Donovan.

Quins departure doesn't change their offseason plans...they still have no plans for a full on re-build. They want to try to make a deep playoff run next season.

They've received a lot of calls about Mitchell and given a firm no... they will only consider trading Mitchell if they receive a monstrous offer.

They have received a lot of interest in both Rudy and Bogey.

Repeats again that the variance for the Jazz is very high...they could make multiple trades involving high level players or they could simply run it back with the bulk of the roster.
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Griffin reminds me of Udoka in that his name has been in HC hiring rumors for a long time and no one has given him a chance. I want a guy like him that has grinded hard and will give everything now that he has his chance. Bryant may be a good dev coach and I'm fine with that hire even though its the CAA hire.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
oh wow. the bolded very interesting. can you provide that link? i'd be very interesting in reading that. thanks!
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Its in the Athletic so you need a subscription. That's all there really was to it... so not sure you are missing anything.
 
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