Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Alright Locke lovers, he finished up his analysis on the top 30 guys and flagged six as “green” (green meaning good) prospects.

Cooper Flagg
Dylan Harper
Tre Johnson
Jase Richardson
Nique Clifford
Walter Clayton Jr.

I thought he also liked Maluach as a pick-and-role finisher. I understand the value of looking for red flags and green flags in college prospects' stats, but they have limited value in projecting what a prospect will become in 3-5 years. You also have to put some of these numbers into context.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Jazz's Big Board has Flagg, Harper and Johnson as the top 3. The incremental reward of Bailey or Edgecombe hitting their ceilings may not justify the risk that their lower floors present.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Traore vs Penda happening right now. I'm guessing nobody is watching?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Traore vs Penda happening right now. I'm guessing nobody is watching?

That's probably a good guess. Most of us have a life.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

That's probably a good guess. Most of us have a life.

I mean, you're currently on the internet....

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is Derik Queen actually better than Yang? That's my biggest question. Yang is about 6 months younger and a good 2-3 inches taller.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Is Derik Queen actually better than Yang? That's my biggest question. Yang is about 6 months younger and a good 2-3 inches taller.

I really don't know how to evaluate Yang. I wish all draft prospects played in the NCAA.

 

[KqWIN]

I don’t really know what to make of Yang either. FWIW, he played really well in the u19 World Cup last year. Looks like he played pretty well against Spain and France.

Against USA he was not efficient, but did post 8/10/7/6. Lot of familiar names on that USA roster like Cody, Harper, Tre, and Newell. Maybe I’ll watch that game if I’m able to find it.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Alright Locke lovers, he finished up his analysis on the top 30 guys and flagged six as “green” (green meaning good) prospects.

Cooper Flagg
Dylan Harper
Tre Johnson
Jase Richardson
Nique Clifford
Walter Clayton Jr.

Honestly, I think there’s a lot to the methodology if you’re just identifying the reds and greens (and as a result, yellows as well).

 

[rippimpc]

Honestly, I think there’s a lot to the methodology if you’re just identifying the reds and greens (and as a result, yellows as well).

I don’t mind Locke’s contributions either. He shares his assumptions and leaves it up to the listener what to do with them.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Is Derik Queen actually better than Yang? That's my biggest question. Yang is about 6 months younger and a good 2-3 inches taller.

Yang has played well against good competition 0 times.

 

[sip]

I remember feeling for Booker how many here feel for and dismiss Tre. I’m starting to wonder if Tre isn’t a future multi time allstar.

This is both cool and sad at the same time. I will say though we would’ve had a number 1 pick but we sold it, and that was magic

I think he will be a star. Love his game and would be very very happy with him. That's why for me this is a can't miss draft since we are locked in with a top 5 pick.

 

[Basketball Novice]

Is Derik Queen actually better than Yang? That's my biggest question. Yang is about 6 months younger and a good 2-3 inches taller.

Yang looks really good with his moves. It's a fair question to ask as I do think they share alot of similarities. I have no idea how to factor CBA competition into this. Even though Yang moves well, the athleticism looks a bit subpar but maybe the height makes up for it. Queen shows just a bit more mobility and flexibility on the floor even though neither can jump much. I also think Yang's passing ability is vastly underutilized as the offense he plays in looks quite static. Defensively, Yang blocks tons of shots but again its the CBA.

58.6% FG% and 33.3% 3P%

The 3P% looks nice but the form is goofy as hell. Someone else who is a shot doctor can give their insights.

Even though they are similar, Yang is a 5, no matter what but I do think Queen is best served being a 4 next to another center.

So, is Queen better than Yang? It's a solid maybe.
Why not draft both?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yang has played well against good competition 0 times.

Hes played against SL competition and I'm sure he has youth experience vs other nations

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Traore vs Penda happening right now. I'm guessing nobody is watching?

According to the box scores both Traore and Penda had good games. Traore with 21pts/7ast in on 8/13 shooting. Penda with 17pts/4reb on 6/9 shooting.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Honestly, I think there’s a lot to the methodology if you’re just identifying the reds and greens (and as a result, yellows as well).

I don't mind the completely objective approach, but it's not logical to me that there could be that much value in comparing statistics among such vastly different data sets.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

According to the box scores both Traore and Penda had good games. Traore with 21pts/7ast in on 8/13 shooting. Penda with 17pts/4reb on 6/9 shooting.

Traore is now 14 for his last 28 from 3. He's 44% from 3 since their mid season break.

 

[KqWIN]

According to the box scores both Traore and Penda had good games. Traore with 21pts/7ast in on 8/13 shooting. Penda with 17pts/4reb on 6/9 shooting.

Traore has some massive games….his playoff game last year made me think he could be in the mix for top 3 before the season. But he also has so many stinkers and he’s continued to be inconsistent.

I remember when people were hyping JHS because he had some massive games. There was this idea that a player’s peak meant more. Obviously didn’t work out for JHS, but is there anyone that still subscribes to that theory?

 

[KqWIN]

Traore highlights


View: https://x.com/mcfdraft/status/1918766324257354048?s=46&t=O8QgyEFSLCb2qd3SCki2Cw

 

[David Hume]

If we win the Lottery and Philly gets #2, is there a plausible scenario where we draft Flagg at 1 and trade whatever for Harper at 2? Would any of you like to see that plan implemented?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If we win the Lottery and Philly gets #2, is there a plausible scenario where we draft Flagg at 1 and trade whatever for Harper at 2? Would any of you like to see that plan implemented?

It would have to be PG + Harper for Lauri?

It's hard to see that deal happening. I'm not sure Lauri is worth the 2nd overall pick, especially not in a vacuum. Philly would really have to believe in Embiid staying healthy (and think PG is completely cooked) to make that kind of deal. I think they would ask Utah to add something.