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Why can't people who leave the LDS church move on?

dalamon said:
I think dropping out of college is a bit different than choosing a different path of spiritual enlightenment. You inferring that your kids' acts of not following your preference of faith, as 'dumb' is narrow-minded.

And when you say that it's super common (which it really isn't) I think that makes things even more problematic.


You're compromising a kids future and education-- at a time where stress levels are inordinately high, and where susceptibility to mental illnesses among males will never be higher.
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When did I say I would cut my kids off if they didn't go on a mission?
 
Beantown said:
When did I say I would cut my kids off if they didn't go on a mission?
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I never said that you said that.


Re-read my post. When you equate cutting off funding your kids due to religious reasons-- with parents cutting off funding when kids drop out, you infer that the two occurrences are mutually acceptable, and not different from the other. I made no assertions on your parenting specifically
 
dalamon said:
I never said that you said that.


Re-read my post. When you equate cutting off funding your kids due to religious reasons-- with parents cutting off funding when kids drop out, you infer that the two occurrences are mutually acceptable, and not different from the other. I made no assertions on your parenting specifically
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My point was a parent can cut off a kid for whatever reason they want and should not be judged for it. Some parents stop helping kids financially after 18 anyways. It's the parents money and its their choice to help their adult child financially however they see fit.....or not at all.
 
Beantown said:
My point was a parent can cut off a kid for whatever reason they want and should not be judged for it. Some parents stop helping kids financially after 18 anyways. It's the parents money and its their choice to help their adult child financially however they see fit.....or not at all.
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That's ********. So if my dad wants me to go to his alma-mater, and threatens me with funding if I don't go, then he can't be judged? If my parents want me to play football in high school, and use my funding as incentive, they shouldn't be judged?

If my father is a incestual pedophiliac, and says that I'll only get money for college if I 'obey' him, then he shouldn't be judged?

Absolute horse-manure.
 
dalamon said:
That's ********. So if my dad wants me to go to his alma-mater, and threatens me with funding if I don't go, then he can't be judged? If my parents want me to play football in high school, and use my funding as incentive, they shouldn't be judged?

If my father is a incestual pedophiliac, and says that I'll only get money for college if I 'obey' him, then he shouldn't be judged?

Absolute horse-manure.
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You're an idiot.
 
Beantown said:
My point was a parent can cut off a kid for whatever reason they want and should not be judged for it. Some parents stop helping kids financially after 18 anyways. It's the parents money and its their choice to help their adult child financially however they see fit.....or not at all.
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It's honestly thought-processes like these that scare me for the future of our children. Your kids aren't a ****ing commodity. They're not an extension of things that you should try to control.

They're you're ****ing kids. And parents who have this loose, my-way-or-get-the-****-out-of-my-face approach are typically parents who ironically demand less respect from their kids. No one likes a pushover-- but no one is impressed by an idealistic jackass either.

Not pointing fingers Bean, it's just an issue that I've seen lots of. You seem like a good father, and you have adorable kids that I know you love
 
dalamon said:
It's honestly thought-processes like these that scare me for the future of our children. Your kids aren't a ****ing commodity. They're not an extension of things that you should try to control.

They're you're ****ing kids. And parents who have this loose, my-way-or-get-the-****-out-of-my-face approach are typically parents who ironically demand less respect from their kids. No one likes a pushover-- but no one is impressed by an idealistic jackass either.

Not pointing fingers Bean, it's just an issue that I've seen lots of. You seem like a good father, and you have adorable kids that I know you love
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We're not talking about kids, were talking about adults.
 
There's a fine line between "supporting" your kids and being overbearing.

For some, they may continue to finance their children's education/cellphone/car while others might not.

The point is (and is what the LDS church teaches... I think...) this is an issue between the parents and the children. The parents have the obligation and duty to be both caring/loving yet teachers and holding their child accountable.

There's a fine line. And from what I've heard, many parents will adjust that line depending on the child.

But I don't think we can blame any religion for the (failing) practices/methods that the parents/children have.
 
dalamon said:
It's honestly thought-processes like these that scare me for the future of our children. Your kids aren't a ****ing commodity. They're not an extension of things that you should try to control.

They're you're ****ing kids. And parents who have this loose, my-way-or-get-the-****-out-of-my-face approach are typically parents who ironically demand less respect from their kids. No one likes a pushover-- but no one is impressed by an idealistic jackass either.

Not pointing fingers Bean, it's just an issue that I've seen lots of. You seem like a good father, and you have adorable kids that I know you love
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We're not talking about kids, were talking about adults. My parents didn't give me a dime after high school. Not much in high school either. I worked all through high school and college. They could have payed for everything but that not their style.
 
Beantown said:
We're not talking about kids, were talking about adults. My parents didn't give me a dime after high school. Not much in high school either. I worked all through high school and college. They could have payed for everything but that not their style.
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How much did college cost for you? Also, how do you think that it worked out in the long run? Will you do the same for your kids?



Either way, your point was that parents should never be judged for what they do with their money, or how they incentivize their children's behaviour. And to me, that is a point that surpasses stupidity
 
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