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dalamon said:
There has been much more to gluten research than just "my neighbour is celiac so it must be bad for me as well".
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Yes but the gyst of it is that if you are sensitive to it then there is a problem, if not then most ordinary folks run a very real risk of shorting themselves necessary nutrients to take part in what amounts to a fad.
 
Scat said:
Frickin' tree-hugger...
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Expected this sort of response. Try it for yourselves, y'all. My mom raised myself along with my two brothers on it, and I know I'll be doing the same if I ever have children myself.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yes but the gyst of it is that if you are sensitive to it then there is a problem, if not then most ordinary folks run a very real risk of shorting themselves necessary nutrients to take part in what amounts to a fad.
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To be quite honest, if ordinary folk aren't really paying attention to their nutrient intake-- then they're risking their health whether they pursue a fad, or heat up TV-dinners every night. "Ordinary folk" have their own respective list of necessary nutrients that they aren't receiving as well.
 
dalamon said:
To be quite honest, if ordinary folk aren't really paying attention to their nutrient intake-- then they're risking their health whether they pursue a fad, or heat up TV-dinners every night. "Ordinary folk" have their own respective list of necessary nutrients that they aren't receiving as well.
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True, but following fad diets without understanding them just makes it worse.
 
LogGrad98 said:
That is actually the problem with focusing on one single facet of diet. People get it in their head that sugar is all that maters so as long as I switch from sugar to splenda our stevia in my coffee I will magically be healthy no matter how many krispy kremes I ate with that coffee this morning, or just make sure I get a diet coke with my double whopper king sized value meal and I'm good. Or they get it in their head that carbs are all that matters so I eat 3 pounds of bacon but no toast so I'm golden. Or the recent glutin craze. Oh I never eat wheat, because my neighbor said he is glutin sensitive so it has to be the root of all evil. People just don't take any time or make the effort to learn that it all ties together.

See I understand a lot about diet and how it all fits together. I just don't care. :)

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Artificial sweeteners increase insulin levels as well. They create the same cravings as sugar minus the calories.

Agree that to micro focus on one thing is not a good idea, but sugar really is the root of all evils in the American diet. Fix that one thing and all your other efforts will start to pay dividends. Ignore it and you're fighting a losing battle.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yes but the gyst of it is that if you are sensitive to it then there is a problem, if not then most ordinary folks run a very real risk of shorting themselves necessary nutrients to take part in what amounts to a fad.
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What nutrients are people missing out on that they cant get in different way?
 
The part about the "gluten fad" that I agree with what Lograd is saying is when people think that anything gluten free is healthy.

Gluten free pizza! lol
 
I tried the gluten free thing to see if gluten was the cause of my chronic migraines, muscle pain and stiffness. It didn't help so I stopped.
 
heyhey said:
gluten. There were really crappy breads that I could eat something weed I think.
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With what you described is going on in your body, I would highly recommend you read this book. Nothing gimmicky, just lays out some of the science'y stuff in an understandable way. It's basically advocating the paleo diet.

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dalamon said:
Curious to read this as well tbh.
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https://www.uwhealth.org/nutrition-diet/the-reality-behind-gluten-free-diets/31084

Avoiding grains on the gluten-free diet means that you are eating fewer products enriched with nutrients, which may lead to deficiencies in iron, calcium, thiamine, riboflavin, niacin, and folate.

Along with fruits and vegetables, the most common sources of dietary fiber are whole-grain breads and cereals, which contain gluten. Many people on gluten-free diets tend to eat inadequate amounts of fiber, which may lead to constipation.

Following a gluten-free diet may potentially cause a decrease in the amount of beneficial bacteria in the gut (Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus), which can negatively impact the immune system.
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For people who must follow a diet like this, or choose to go all-in sure they can replace the nutrients, but it takes more work to balance the diet in those case. People who go in as a fad diet run a greater risk of not replacing those nutrients as they are just buying "gluten-free" thinking it is automatically more healthy, which it is not.
 
LogGrad98 said:
https://www.uwhealth.org/nutrition-diet/the-reality-behind-gluten-free-diets/31084



For people who must follow a diet like this, or choose to go all-in sure they can replace the nutrients, but it takes more work to balance the diet in those case.
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It takes more work than what? It's interesting, because you keep referring to adopting a gluten-free diet as an alternative to something that "ordinary people" normally eat. Can you please illustrate what this traditional diet is?


People who go in as a fad diet run a greater risk of not replacing those nutrients as they are just buying "gluten-free" thinking it is automatically more healthy, which it is not.
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Yes, but what about the nutrients that they are receiving from the gluten-free diet that they did not receive earlier in their old diet?

Again, to re-iterate my point: A person who does not pay attention to their diet to ensure that they are covering their necessary nutritional requirements, will be risking their health whether they stick to their 'mainstream' diet, adopt a gluten-free one, a macrobiotic one, a paleolithic diet, a vegan diet, or whatever it may be. The specific nutritional requirements that you are missing out on will vary from diet to diet, but to suggest that aimlessly following a gluten-free diet is more risky than aimlessly following a traditional American diet is intellectually-disingenious.
 
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