Yes Means Yes law passed

[silesian]

There is in reality no meaning attached to marriage beyond whatever the woman feels or wants from minute to minute. . . . . at least not in our culture, anymore.

Why do you single out women?

 

[silesian]

For words to have any meaning, there need to be some beliefs about personal responsibility, personal morality, and in some higher power that represents transcendent truth somehow. . . . .

secular humanism, cutting off all attribution to universal principles that will stand as true on their own inherent terms as truth, reduces us to squabbling morons socially, and to "human resources" under the absolute tyranny of fascist elites politically.

You think secular humanism has nothing to do with personal responsibility and morality? You must be living in a cave. Secular humanists believe that you can be moral and ethical without a belief in God.

The counter-belief is that the only reason a person choose to behave morally and ethically is because they believe in God. Since I see a great number of moral and ethical atheists, this is not credible to me

 

[silesian]

secular humanism, cutting off all attribution to universal principles that will stand as true on their own inherent terms as truth, reduces us to squabbling morons socially, and to "human resources" under the absolute tyranny of fascist elites politically.

Yes, because in religious societies, there are no squabbling morons tyranny or fascist elites. A victim mentality to blame societal problems on "those people" who don't go to my church, instead of being reflective and seeing how you and your kind are contributing to these social problems.

Pick up a history book, young man. Reading is fundamental.

 

[gandalfe]

He demands of us to love our neighbor and do good to others. The horror! !!

Oh. And to kill the infidels.

 

[One Brow]

There are probably scenarios when a woman consents to sex and then the man upsets her in some way, so she decides to cry rape in an effort to **** the man over

There are probably scenarios when a person gives a gift and then the recipient upsets the giver in some way, so the giver decides to cry theft in an effort to **** the recipient over, but we don't try to discount most accusations of theft because of it.

 

[8]

There are probably scenarios when a person gives a gift and then the recipient upsets the giver in some way, so the giver decides to cry theft in an effort to **** the recipient over, but we don't try to discount most accusations of theft because of it.

But we should discount those particular cases, no?

 

[One Brow]

But we should discount those particular cases, no?

You mean, every case where one person happens to have met the alleged thief? Every case where the alleged theif claims it was a gift?

 

[8]

You mean, every case where one person happens to have met the alleged thief? Every case where the alleged theif claims it was a gift?

The case you described, dude.

 

[fishonjazz]

There are probably scenarios when a person gives a gift and then the recipient upsets the giver in some way, so the giver decides to cry theft in an effort to **** the recipient over, but we don't try to discount most accusations of theft because of it.

I think the punishment for theft vs the punishment for rape are not the same.

Nor the effect on the accuseds reputation

 

[gandalfe]

I think the punishment for theft vs the punishment for rape are not the same.

Nor the effect on the accuseds reputation

Nor the effect on the victim. Nor the effect on the victim during a trial. Have you ever heard a case where the judge says, "Well, you've loaned things to people before, therefore it can't have been stolen from you?" Because the equivalent happens all the time in rape cases.

 

[fishonjazz]

Nor the effect on the victim. Nor the effect on the victim during a trial.

Exactly

 

[One Brow]

The case you described, dude.

How do you separate them from the cases where a theft actually happened, without a thorough investigation followed by a prosecution?