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Would You Trade Favors for Cousins?

Would You Trade Favors for Cousins?

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Primetime said:
#1: Talking about TS% w/o mentioning minutes per game and USG% is terrible.

#2: There are exactly 22 season were a F-C or C or C-F had played >30 min/g, >30 USG% and >55 TS%

Shaq: 11 x
Olajuwan: 3x
Ewing: 3x
DMC: 2x(this season still in progress)
Ming: 1x
Stoudemire: 1x
Robinson: 1x

Yeah not first option worthy. Dude ist doing stuff Shaq, Hakeem and The Admiral did...

Edit: https://www.basketball-reference.co...tat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws
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Yet those players had those usage rates on playoff teams. Cousins is nothing unless he can pull that team to the playoffs.
 
spycam1 said:
It's a really impressive stat, none the less.
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To me usage rates are impressive if a team is relying on you that much, and it's resulting in your team being in playoff contention.


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dalamon said:
To me usage rates are impressive if a team is relying on you that much, and it's resulting in your team being in playoff contention.


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I get that, but any time you're on a list exclusive to Shaq, Hakeem, and Robinson, it's impressive.
 
dalamon said:
Yet those players had those usage rates on playoff teams. Cousins is nothing unless he can pull that team to the playoffs.
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And that is somehow Cousins fault? I posted his on court off court splits a little earlier in this thread. They outscore their opponents when he is on the court by 3.8 per 100[better then the Suns almost as good as the Rockets] when he is off the court they get outscored by 12.7 per 100[worse than the Sixers!!!].
You're watching some Jazz games. And you know how important Gordon is and how we look like **** when Gordon isn't playing. That is how it is w/ DMC and the Kings and then some.
 
Easily YES...The upside is soooo far passed what we w ill get as of now..The chance for an elite player over a good player is worth the risk. I say at this point, as good as Favors is, and I like him, he is our 4th most important piece going forward. Exum, Hayward, Gobbert...then Favors...Cousins would immediately become our best (talentwise) player along with Exum. If we could hit on both of them, we would be set for a while. Obviously the chances are we wouldnt and one or both fail to realize what they could be. BUT, in my opinion, SWING for the fences when you can trade your 4th piece for a possible #1 piece. No risk, no reward.
 
Primetime said:
And that is somehow Cousins fault? I posted his on court off court splits a little earlier in this thread. They outscore their opponents when he is on the court by 3.8 per 100[better then the Suns almost as good as the Rockets] when he is off the court they get outscored by 12.7 per 100[worse than the Sixers!!!].
You're watching some Jazz games. And you know how important Gordon is and how we look like **** when Gordon isn't playing. That is how it is w/ DMC and the Kings and then some.
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Great retort.

Check it dala
 
Primetime said:
And that is somehow Cousins fault? I posted his on court off court splits a little earlier in this thread. They outscore their opponents when he is on the court by 3.8 per 100[better then the Suns almost as good as the Rockets] when he is off the court they get outscored by 12.7 per 100[worse than the Sixers!!!].
You're watching some Jazz games. And you know how important Gordon is and how we look like **** when Gordon isn't playing. That is how it is w/ DMC and the Kings and then some.
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No one is denying that he is a star level talent, who has amazing physical attributes with great skills. A great player elevates his teammates as well. If his teammates hate him or there's constant bull **** going on between him and the coach or another "lesser" teammate, then any amount of skill he might possess is neutralized by his negativity in every other aspect of the game and team. I don't predict stuff since it's usually useless, but I would be shocked to see Cousins on a Playoff bound NBA team any time soon. He's had **** dragging along with him before he even entered the league, and yes, he hasn't gone to prison as predicted, but he sure as hell hasn't done much for his reputation. It's always an excuse with Cousins. Take a look at Wall in comparison. He is a true All Star.
 
I compare Cousins to Carmelo ... now, as talented as Carmelo is, do you think he will ever bring a championship to an NBA team? Look what happened to the Knicks after they got Carmelo. Cousins is a great talent but a chemistry disruptor, you can have him I don't want him -- imagine trying to coach this guy?
 
I voted yes, however I can understand those who voted no. Cousins has a checker'd past with his on and off court attitude. He made huge advances in maturity this year when gaining the respect of former Coach Malone. But I think his maturity is because of his own development rather that of his coach. He is showing that he is a contender, and is learning from his mistakes.
 
This thread is funny.

Cousins sucks ***. I wouldn't touch a guy like him, melo, JR Smith, Matt Barnes, etc with a 10 foot pole.

If you want to ruin your franchise then get a guy like Cousins.
 
The Thriller said:
This thread is funny.

Cousins sucks ***. I wouldn't touch a guy like him, melo, JR Smith, Matt Barnes, etc with a 10 foot pole.

If you want to ruin your franchise then get a guy like Cousins.
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If there was ever proof we should trade Favors for Cousins..
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Hey, PKM, I think Thriller has legit concerns. Maybe Cousins will change, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Of course he does.. except he stated them with too much hyperbole. We have discussed Cousins in fair detail throughout the thread.. the good and the bad. I was just giving Thriller **** for a drive-by dump.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I compare Cousins to Carmelo ... now, as talented as Carmelo is, do you think he will ever bring a championship to an NBA team? Look what happened to the Knicks after they got Carmelo. Cousins is a great talent but a chemistry disruptor, you can have him I don't want him -- imagine trying to coach this guy?
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Look what happened to the Knicks? They went to the second round of the playoffs with him.
 
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I've thought the same thing but then I think about the Spurs and they've never had a badass. Even when they had SJax, he was professional SJax and not much of a badass.

Maybe just someone with some outward 'personality and 'tude?
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
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I've thought the same thing but then I think about the Spurs and they've never had a badass. Even when they had SJax, he was professional SJax and not much of a badass.

Maybe just someone with some outward 'personality and 'tude?
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Not true. The coach counts.
 
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