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A few years ago the Suns won on the same play but with like 0.1 on the clock. It’s correct that it’s not considered a shot so the offensive player just needs to touch it. It amazed me how few people learned about this since then (meaning coaches) because we’ve been in numerous situations where it would come in handy.
Like a team with a really huge center could run that action a few times a year... might even help get his guards open for threes in the corner because its really difficult to guard both the screener and roller there? Teams with big centers that dunk a lot might look at this option a little closer.
 
Jackson and Van Gundy said it was considered a “live ball” since it was inbounded, not a regular pass or shot, and therefore couldn’t even be considered a goal tend. So they made it sound like you could goal tend offensively if it was an inbounds pass.
I’ll be honest, I hadn’t thought about this before so I could just be misunderstanding them completely. Anyone else feel free to jump in!

On twitter there were analysts who noticed 3 things:

1. Cousins Didnt position himself properly to take away the lob. It seemed like he was head on crowder which actually made the lob pass easy. I know you might find this hard to believe, since I know how much you love cousins ;)
2. Batum took a wrong step.
3. Zoo just wasn’t physical/quick enough to take it away.

All of which makes sense. I think where the Clippers really blew it was the free throws. Even if George splits them, that unreal lob only sends the game into overtime. If he makes both? Then the lob isn’t even an option.
I'm completely okay with this loss landing squarely in the shoulders of Pushoff-P. Let them lose the series by a game and have this eat at him forever and a day.

It's small consolation for game 6, but it would still be something.

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can the inbounder try to just make the shot from out of bounds or would that not count? What if the inbounder tries to throw the lob but it hits the rim and is still above the cylinder and a player tips it in? Does that count.

If the inbounder made it, it wouldn’t count. If it hits the rim it doesn’t matter either it’s just a live ball not a shot. All Ayton had to do was get a finger on the ball before it went in.

Also, Zubac could literally have stuck his arm through the rim and hit the ball away before Ayton touched it and it would have been clean.
 
Like a team with a really huge center could run that action a few times a year... might even help get his guards open for threes in the corner because its really difficult to guard both the screener and roller there? Teams with big centers that dunk a lot might look at this option a little closer.
I hope that if the jazz are ever down 1 or 2 with .2 seconds left that they bring in favors and udoka along with rudy and put them all right by the rim. Then have donovan be the inbounder but have him shoot at the basket with the intention of making the basket. Like a 30 foot three pointer that he makes all the time. Then when the ball is about to go in have all our 7 footers jump up and try to dunk/tip it in.
Basically just like a hail mary in football.
 
If the inbounder made it, it wouldn’t count. If it hits the rim it doesn’t matter either it’s just a live ball not a shot. All Ayton had to do was get a finger on the ball before it went in.

Also, Zubac could literally have stuck his arm through the rim and hit the ball away before Ayton touched it and it would have been clean.
He could go up through the hoop and hit and with no call against him? Wow. But if ayton touched it first he couldn't go up through the hoop correct?
 
He could go up through the hoop and hit and with no call against him? Wow. But if ayton touched it first he couldn't go up through the hoop correct?

Correct so if he saw the ball coming he could go through the hoop and knock it away. Ayton touched it first so it would have been goaltending.
 
Here's the one from a few years back:



It's amazing to me that since this, nobody has paid attention and how many times we've tried to catch-and-shoot on last possessions and how many times we've failed. It's almost like this never happened.

It's also amazing to me how we still don't throw heaves with 0.8 left on the clock. We did that a couple times in the playoffs. I reject the idea of doing this nonsense to protect your numbers, but this is more understandable in the regular season, but how on earth we came to view this as acceptable in playoff basketball is some really losing BS.
 
Here's the one from a few years back:



It's amazing to me that since this, nobody has paid attention and how many times we've tried to catch-and-shoot on last possessions and how many times we've failed. It's almost like this never happened.

It's also amazing to me how we still don't throw heaves with 0.8 left on the clock. We did that a couple times in the playoffs. I reject the idea of doing this nonsense to protect your numbers, but this is more understandable in the regular season, but how on earth we came to view this as acceptable in playoff basketball is some really losing BS.

It’s also a weird rule. If a guy passes to another player when the ball is in play and a guy touches it then it’s goaltending if it’s in the cylinder. Why is an out of bounds play different?
 
Here's the one from a few years back:



It's amazing to me that since this, nobody has paid attention and how many times we've tried to catch-and-shoot on last possessions and how many times we've failed. It's almost like this never happened.

It's also amazing to me how we still don't throw heaves with 0.8 left on the clock. We did that a couple times in the playoffs. I reject the idea of doing this nonsense to protect your numbers, but this is more understandable in the regular season, but how on earth we came to view this as acceptable in playoff basketball is some really losing BS.

I heard that in college they dont count those heaves against your numbers anymore. Unless it goes in. So it actually encourages players making these heaves before the buzzer. Should probably implement that in the nba imo.
 
It’s also a weird rule. If a guy passes to another player when the ball is in play and a guy touches it then it’s goaltending if it’s in the cylinder. Why is an out of bounds play different?
Since the out-of-bounds play has no chance of counting as a shot, whereas it's hard to determine "intent" when the ball is in play I suppose they could determine anything is intent to shoot if it happens on a play where the ball would count.
 
If the inbounder made it, it wouldn’t count. If it hits the rim it doesn’t matter either it’s just a live ball not a shot. All Ayton had to do was get a finger on the ball before it went in.

Also, Zubac could literally have stuck his arm through the rim and hit the ball away before Ayton touched it and it would have been clean.
If it hits the rim (which it almost did) or the backboard, before a player touches the ball, it’s a violation
 
I've been thinking about this recently and can't think of a good reason why just shooting the ball shouldn't be legal.
Shot clock? If you manage the clock on the other end up leave 0.1 on the clock, the other team gets another shot. And if they make it, no time is off the clock, so the possession goes back to the other side and you have a shootout.
 
Shot clock? If you manage the clock on the other end up leave 0.1 on the clock, the other team gets another shot. And if they make it, no time is off the clock, so the possession goes back to the other side and you have a shootout.
I mean... cool? Is that worse or less entertaining than a free-throw shooting contest?
 
This bucks team is taking a Q Snyder like 3rd quarter. Lol it’s validating to see another team come out after halftime and wet the bed.
 
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